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Kasz216 said:

Again.... none of that is actually true.

First off, lowest bid contracts have REQUIREMENTS.

So if say... I offer to feed children with dirt for a penny a day... they don't have to accept it.

So you know, all it takes is setting nutrition requirments.

Secondly, most private schools AREN'T for the rich... and in general, private schools spend much less per child, on everything.  The Tuition people pay to get their kids in private school is actually less then the government pays for public school.  Hence the push for school vouchers.  More rich people put their kids in private school on AVERAGE however that's because they have the money to spend on schools that work better because they tend to avoid the wastefull school bueracracies, and in somecases even the teachers unions.  The only reason more poor people don't is because they don't have the money, often due to taxes they pay for schools anyway.  (Hence again, the push for vouchers.)

Thirdly, yes still by bulk, healthy foods are the cheapest.  Heck Armark who is one of the big food distrbutors ran one of the best, cheapest and healthy cafeteria's i've ever seen. 

None of it is true?  Really?  You don't think I know about requirements?  I thought that was a given in what I said, not needed to be said.  When I buy a car, I expect it to come with wheels. Even WITH requirements currently in place, eating less healthy IS cheaper.

You're right, setting different nutrition requirements (which I didn't mention, thus, how could it be untrue?) is a way to change things.  Ok.  Let's get them changed.  In the meantime, I'm still right, and it's still more expensive by bulk. 

Really?  Poor people can't afford to send their kids to private school because they don't have the money?  Gee wiz, there is a fact I didn't know.  Yeah, vouchers would be nice, but until they exist everywhere, you have to pay your taxes AND pay for private school.  We aren't talking about what SHOULD be in this country, we are talking about WHAT IS.  And how much does that cost per year?  Just over $8,500 a year on average (http://www.capenet.org/facts.html) and that was 4 years ago, so prices have gone up.  So let's say a poor family makes $30k a year .... you really think they can afford to spend 35% of their income to send just one child to a private school?  Please.  You need discretionary income to do that.  Which means if you can do that, you aren't poor.  Private schools raise their tuition too, and yet your average wages continue to decline, so where do you think more and more kids WON'T be going to because of no money?  Private schools.  They may not be exclusively for the rich, but they sure aren't for the poor at all.  Middle class to rich is who private schools are for... and since the middle class is shrinking... more and more won't be able to afford private schools.  Not to mention even middle classers may not be able to send multiple kids to a private school, they might just have to pick one of their children.  Which means they are still paying taxes for now on that.

Arakmark does seem to have done a good job in some places, but not where I was.  They charged an arm and a leg for their food, meals were over $6 at LEAST, and things were sloppy.  This is from CT, where I just moved from: "The unions have repeatedly criticized Aramark for poor quality food, unwise purchasing, and lack of openness about its budget, suggesting that rebates on volume purchases have not gone to the district."  http://newhavenindependent.org/archives/2008/04/aramark_is_out.php  And Aramark has been known to fire workers for reporting unsanitary food conditions, not paying their people or hiring properly.  Maybe you just got lucky.  Or maybe they charged me triple what you paid to make up for the difference.

We are in agreement that things need to change.  We are in agreement that serving healthier meals for kids can be done if certain changes would be made.  But I'm talking about right now.  And right now, that isn't the case.  That's like saying we wouldn't be in Afghanistan right now if it weren't for terrorists, and all that needs to happen is for people to stop wanting to kill us.  Sounds cool, but it won't happen overnight.  Not that changing government policy on our schools is harder then getting people to stop hating us, but it sure isn't as easy as flipping a switch.



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