Is religion still relevant in modern society?

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BasilZero said:

theprof00 said:

BasilZero said:

I didnt give you a stupid excuse, the answer I gave you is the most logical answer I can give to a illogical question such as "What if so and so etc" such as yours.

This is a hypothetical question, but your evasion to answer is making me think you see my point already.

Do you masturbate? Masturbation is a sin, as I'm sure you know. Do you do it anyway? Why, why not?

If you're not allowed to masturbate according to your religion, and you don't find the same sex attractive (as our hypothetical Bible describes) then how do you engage in what even padib calls a scientifically proven healthy release?

This isn't a question about what is natural, etc etc. This question is asking you to put yourself in the shoes of a gay person. You find women attractive right? What if finding women attractive was wrong, a sin? Would you be able to resist. Would you be able to lie to yourself?

That is the question.

Your question which I was referring to was the "What if " question, its like asking what if we breathed carbon dioxide instead of oxygen? You never asked me about masturbation until now.

In terms of masturbation, yes I have, and I'm pretty sure you and the rest of the people in the world (or the majority of it) have done as well. We're human, we're not perfect, we make mistakes, even sinful mistakes. Point is no one is perfect.

It might be a proven healthy release, but there are also other factors that can prevent from leading to that certain disease or condition.

Finding a woman attractive wouldnt be a sin for a male, because it IS natural for a man to be attractive to a female, its a natural thing, you cannot deny that. The fact that "Gay" person as you put it would be attracted to a person of the same gender is based on personal free will and decision, its not something that their born with, I'm sorry but I dont believe the "Your born gay" discussions, thats like saying a murder was born to murder, he acted on his own decisions and on his own will to murder, not cause he was born to do so.

If your homosexual, than your homosexual, if your heterosexual, than your heterosexual, that is a decision you make, that is why Free Will exists. No point in hiding about it.

I can't believe there are still people that are so in denial about homosexuality. Saying someone was born gay is comparable to you to saying someone was born a murderer?

 

Really? If you want to talk about natural, there are hundreds, if not thousands of species which naturally have homosexual members - including human beings.