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NightDragon83 said:
enditall727 said:
NightDragon83 said:
Wii U 2012
NextBox 2013
PS4 2014

That's the way it is. Sony can't afford to launch another system within the next 2 years yet when the PS3 is finally starting to turning a profit for them, and with the impending Vita launch which is going to drain more cash from Sony (they're selling it at a loss), and where the long-term success of the platform is still very much up in the air.

The traditional "5-year" console cycle is long gone as of this generation. And even when it comes to Sony, they haven't had to stick to the arbitrary 5-year cycle the way Nintendo, Sega, and more recently M$ did... PS1 was already out for almost 5-1/2 years before PS2 launched in Japan, and it took more than 6 years between the PS2 and PS3 launch. Sony is only going to make their move when M$ does, because they don't feel that the Wii U is as big of a threat to them, as it's only catching up to the 360/PS3 in terms of power and graphical abilities, and won't be leaps and bounds over the PS3 like the "NextBox" will be.


okay everybody seems to be pointing at the cost's/loss and what not and i can understand that BUT

how exactly do you know that Sony will make the move when M$ does? what if Sony just says "screw it" and decides to release there console before Microsoft does? what if they decide to roll with the weaker console? if Sony roles with the weaker console(which is pretty much what happened in the 6th generation) they will leave M$ in the dust HANDS DOWN and the console will for sure cost less to make because they wouldn't have had to outdo what M$ might bring next gen(not even mentioning that microsoft would try to outdo Sony resulting in them launching a year after them)

it would suck but hey as long as Sony brings the games then im cool :)

Wishful thinking, but not gonna happen.  Sony would have had to do something like that by next year to steal Nintendo's thunder and get the jump on M$, who in all likelyhood will release the 360's successor in 2013.  If they were to release a console alongside or after Microsoft's that is deemed to be "weaker" or less powerful (no matter how much cheaper it is), it would seriously hurt them with the "core" gaming audience and their fans who expect Sony to be on the cutting edge when it comes to console hardware, and the casual audience wouldn't care either way because they'd still have the Wii / Wii U and Kinect to play with.

Also don't forget, the PS2 being the "weakest" of the major consoles last gen (aside from Dreamcast) was less a byproduct of its design as it was the timing of its actual release... the PS2's design was pretty much finalized by the end of '99 and launched in March '00 in Japan, yet the Xbox and GC ended up being only marginally more powerful than it despite both launching almost a full 2 years later.  Same thing with the PS1... it was finalized and launched alongside the Saturn in late '94 in Japan, and was still able to keep up with and easily outsell the more powerful N64 which came out 18 months later.

It's obvious that Sony isn't going to have the opportunity to get a jump on its competitors like that for the next generation, so best to allow the PS3 to continue to grow in market share and profitability for the time being, and then come out strong in 2014 with a console that's not only more powerful than its competitors, but also well designed and just as affordable (Sony should be able to match whatever price M$ is selling theirs at in 2014), while having a stacked library of AAA titles ready to go for launch, unlike the PS3's launch which stumbled out of the gate due to the high price point and no real killer app launch titles.

yea i know Sony wont release it's console a year before microsoft lol i was just trying to make a point

you are saying that 360's successor will be released in 2013 and i am saying that PS3's AND 360's successor will be released in 2013 :)

and you cant just shove Nintendo out of the picture because of the way this generation played out. It's not like Nintendo just shoved Sony out of the picture and focused solely on microsoft this generation coming off of last

so why would Sony just omit Nintendo? Nintendo is a competitor aswell as microsoft

man like i said before, Sony is NOT going to let Nintendo get a 2 year lead over them like that no matter what happened the previous gen

i see Sony releasing the PS4 right after Wii U in 2013 like they are known to do. I see PS4 and NexBox releasing in the same year

and for some reason everybody just magically thinks that if Sony and Microsoft launch in the same year that Microsoft will automatically have the more powerful product. I have no clue why people think this

it's 50/50

and also Sony will have time to profit with ps3 a bit before PS4 is launched. Dont forget that 2013's holiday season is about a good 2 years away

:)