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Runa216 said:
padib said:
In defense of Player1x3, and of people of faith, I think there is one thing terribly worrisome and broken with your position. For one, you exact that believers not impose their beliefs or frame of mind on others, but you are doing the exact thing you ask to stop. See bolded as an example. If you become the very thing you ran away from, it's a terrible thing for others to fear, as you can easily turn into a wolf in sheeps clothing. You will devour others who hurt you, and claim innocence. Be careful, and take this as an honest warning. Also know that it's something I'm quite firm on in terms of my judgement on the attitude you're exhibiting. I know we were doing good, but I had to say that.

On another note, as for the altruism post, I never was disappointed, and even then, it would not be of my business either way. I just wanted to mention that, after this thread, it became much easier for me to believe you, and that you were being genuine. If you consider that ignorant, pardon me. I'm working on baby steps.

Just so you know, I don't go on 'crusades' against religion unless they're doing something detrimental to myself, my friends, or to society (such as the aforementioned interference in science.)  Generally speaking, as long as religious people keep it to themselves or are respectful, I get along with them just fine.  Like I've said a dozen times or so, I only 'push' my beliefs on religion when you have stuff like Westboro Baptist church protesting soldiers, or Fox news claiming Gay Marriage is an affront to traditional marriage.  Get where I'm going here? 

Take a look at the bottom panel.  It would no longer be hypocrisy if the man on the left was a different man than the one in the top panel.

In the cartoon that guy kinda has that coming, but if said atheist does that to Christians who aren't assaulting him with their beliefs, he has become the exact person that he rails against.  He becomes the hypocrite.  The failing of the comic is that it presents those two people as two groups, not two men, to make one group look bad regardless how individuals within it conduct themselves. 

Now you claim not to go on 'crusades' against religion, that as long as religious people keep it to themselves or are respectful you get along with them just fine.  But your claim seems to lack integrity when you put up that cartoon.  It does, after all, marginalize every person of faith in this thread/board who hasn't been bashing in your head with their worldview.  So can you truly claim that you do not bash them in the head with your own?