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yep i also say PS4 will come out 2014...not any sooner...and Wii-U is not the typical "next generation" console...its just like the PS3 & X360...the new Xbox will show what power the new generation will bring graphical & technical wise...alsp PS3 is now making money and does better than before and it will do even better next year and the year after that...Sony just would be stupid to rush with the PS4...