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padib said:
sapphi_snake said:
padib said:
theprof00 said:
Think about it this way padib.
What if the Bible actually wrote it the opposite way we now know it. What if the sin was being hetero?
I know it's hard for you to put yourself in someone else's shoes about this subject, but please try it for just a moment.

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@bolded. It will be my great delight. I never ask someone to do something I wouldn't myself be willing to do.

Regarding italics, if the bible stated that being heterosexual was a sin, I would stop being a Christian immediately. It is contrary to every fibre of reason and conviction I have irrespective of scripture. To assure you, there are areas in the bible I struggle with very much so. Thankfully, they aren't as blatant as "flee from heterosexuality, or any form of sexuality whatsoever". And despite very relevant and heavy challenges from areligious material or material from antagonists of Christianity, I have found many of these to at least have some answer, if not a shadow of one. I am still convinced. I know you realize there are many religions to choose from, even not choosing any at all (which would be quite convenient). If I am still a Christian today, it's because I am not convinced it is fatally flawed like in posted theoretical scenario.

In other words, I can understand why people who, with their convictions of life telling them homosexuality is good, were quick to throw the bible out. I can understand that position since, if I were in their shoes, I would have done the same.

Excellent question.

Then you admit you are a hypocrite. Confirms a little theory I had about homophobes actually. You disgust me to no end.

How am I a hypocrite? When did I ever say I believed in the bible because it told me so? I believe in the bible because I agree with it. I never said otherwise, and all this confirms is that once again you are too quick to pull the finger.

So now, wait a second. I'm a hypocrite when I agree with the holy book, but I'm a fanatic when I adhere to it blindly? What do you call yourself then? I think you're a fantastic soccer player, rather soccer-field builder. You're excellent at displacing goalposts if I may say so myself.

@bold. Before pointing fingers, I would appreciate you ask before judging. So far, I have seen more judgement from your part than from any Christian I have ever met, and boy have I met some characters let me tell you that.

@homophobia. For the record, I am not a homophobe. I had my arm caressed by a total stranger at a party one night. I kindly told him I wasn't interested. Is that the behavior of a homophobe? I'd prefer if you tried to get to know be better before labeling me with names.

You are a hypocrite because you agree with the Bible when it exhaults you (e.g. heterosexuality is OK), but admit that you'd disagree with it if it condemned you (e.g. heterosexuality is a sin). If it were such a book filled with wisdom, then you'd have to accept what is written in it. You've just shown that you don't believe in the Bible for any logical reasons, and you don't consider homosexuality to be wrong for any logical reasons, you just don't like it because it's something you're not, and you like the Bible because it's tailored to suit people like you, and legitimate the fact that you're the right type of person (i.e. dominant class). And of course if you're the 'right' type of person, there has to be a 'wrong' type of person (in this particular case the homosexual) that you can pick on to make yourslef feel mighty and righteous. When you said It is contrary to every fibre of reason and conviction I have irrespective of scripture, you basically said it all.

Your behaviour towards homosexuals is disgusting. And trust me, you are a homophobe regardless of how much you deny it.



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