Gay penguins to be torn apart

[sapphi_snake]

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lol torn apart made me think slaughtered or something by other penguins :P

they say that being gay is not natural but when animals do it it makes things look natural and they do not want that so they try to hide what is natural from people like in this zoo.

when i tell people that there are homo animals they are very surprised and don't believe me, even some gay people :P

killing your newborn babies is also natural. animals do it

and your point is?

Everything animals do is natural. If theres ever a political dispute weather we should allow baby slaughter (theres is actually a law like that lol) we should say that because animals do it, its natural and thus ok

This is one of the stupidest arguments ever (and yet it's also so overused).

No, its perfectly logical. whatever animals do is natural

Yeah, but your problem is that you don't understand that if you're gonna say that homosexuality is bad, you gotta actually present arguments that it's bad. Putting it in the same sentence with infanticide may work with extremely stupid people, but it's not an actual argument. It's just an attempt at fearmongering.

I never mentioned homosexuality in this thread, i was just pointing out how ridiculously stupid "animals do it, so its natural" argument is

The point of the 'animals do it, so it's natural' argument isn't to make a judgment of value, but to counter the ridiculous arguments that homosexuality is 'unnatural'. Also, homosexuality being natural gives weight to the 'people are born gay' argument. And if homosexuality isn't negative (and you can't really make any arguments for the contrary) and it's natural to the homosexual individual, then it's a cruelty to persecute them and tell them they should 'change'.

People are also born with one arm,leg, or other physical or mental dissorders, that doesn't make any more natural. Why the fuck should  Asperger's syndrome be considered as a disorder but homosexuality natural?

First of all, as I already said, being natural does not attract by itself any judgment of value. Homosexuality is natural, and it's not a disorder because studies done by psychologists and psychiatrists have shown that it does not fit the criteria to be one (hence why it was removed from the disorder list). Homosexuals are perfectly capable of functioning properly in society (unlike people who have Asperger's), and homosexuality isn't harmful to the homosexual or to others. Actually, for the homosexual homosexuality is benefic, because it's his/her natural state, and negative attitudes towards it (i.e. slef hate) leads to psychological imbalances.