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Paul on 11 November 2011
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Dr.Grass said:
Paul said:
Dr.Grass said:

 

 

You please tell me what motivation is there for a person who has adopted the non-theistic world view to have any morals at all?

I like my children, wife, pizza and video games. They help me lead a well balanced and happy life.

Science itself is a disappointment if one is looking for a coherent explanation of the universe and life. It's quite simply not a proper explanation.

I prefer the explanation, "god did it". I find it brings so much closure to questions about life, the universe and why your brain doesn't function. It's relatively short and you don't have to think about anything. Science is hard and you have to spend so much time observing stuff.




And what if you stop liking your wife and children? What amazes me very much is that people who claim to adhere to the most logical world-view have no answers when it comes to the basic issues of desire and pleasure.

In fact, such a veil is pulled over personhood, consciousness and mind (as a substantial entity), that the explanation for these things gets absorbed into weak arguments like:

''...I like my children, wife, pizza and video games. They help me lead a well balanced and happy life.''

Which brings us to your sarcastic ''god did it'' output. You see, you may look at certain religions and the people who partake therein and extrapolate that this is what religion means. Sure, you probably have not experienced evidence that there might be a truly transcendent aspect to our existence which is only reachable by an adjustment of consciousness and a reinforcement of advanced philosophical ideas. But with the majority of the average modern person being mostly exposed to sensual impulses that are in direct contradiction to the principles behind such lofty theological ideas, you have to ask yourself whether you have actually tried to look at it objectively.

''Science is hard and you have to spend so much time observing stuff.''

You are very unfortunate if you believe all theists are this undeveloped.

And science isn't that hard.

I believe evolution as currently accepted in biology is the reason why I like my family and why it is unlikely that I will stop liking them.

you probably have not experienced evidence that there might be a truly transcendent aspect to our existence which is only reachable by an adjustment of consciousness and a reinforcement of advanced philosophical ideas. I do hope that I don't suffer any trauma or illness to my brain that would cause these delusions.

Science isn't that hard as a methodology of trying to understand things, but the things you are trying to understand are incredibly complex for our limited brains.

The limitation of the human brain is clearly exposed in this thread, including my own posts. At least Runa216 shows some hope for humanity.