Is religion still relevant in modern society?

[Dr.Grass]

padib said:

RolStoppable said:

I usually stay out of these religious threads, because people from all sides are capable of providing insane views. I have only read a few of the approximately 50 posts since the last time I posted here, but I get the impression that you've been throwing common sense out of the window. Like people can't live peaceful together without religion over a longer period of time. Or a lack of religious values causes families to fall apart more easily.

This point about families is interesting, because you are right. Non-religious families do indeed fall apart more easily. But this isn't because they have problems that religious people don't have. Families generally face the same problems, religious or not. The difference is that religious families are more inclined to keep up the facade of a happy family, even though it is a complete trainwreck on the inside.

These religious values can also lead to suicides, because these values and how people feel (like homosexuality) do not mash. They either continue to live a lie or they kill themselves, because they feel guilty for something they cannot do anything about. And due to the people close to them who also hold the same religious values, they cannot live the life they need to in order to be happy.

But religion or not, that's really not the point. What matters in the end is that people can live happily without hurting others. This doesn't require religion and it doesn't require non-belief, it only takes common sense that certain things are wrong and others are right. 

You know what my problem is Rol, I'm bundling all areligious in one big melting pot and that's the wrong thing to do. I associate that group with the current trends I see in media and most modern maneurisms and social behaviors. It's the wrong thing to do.

But at least I see my faults. You get the sense in this thread that the only ones who are right are the ones with the loudest voice, but it rarely is ever true...

I have made my effort in life  to get out of my comfort zone, out of my closed circle and open up to the world. I just ask the same of the others here, including OP. You put religion and religious people in one big melting pot, and you (the posters here Rol, not you) are making a big mistake too. The wall needs to be torn down otherwise the madness will only get worse. Religious people will become more fanatical as they are suffocated in a stagnant air-space. Areligious will become bigger bigots because they also fail to understand those on the other side.

A little image you might be somewhat familiar with being near Germany:

I give you full marks for that post.