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Andrespetmonkey on 09 November 2011
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padib said:
Andrespetmonkey said:

We already know how a society will work without a religion. Look at Sweden, Norway, Finland. It can't possibly just be the 15% of christians in Sweden that are keeping the crime rates among the lowest in the world, the quality of life among the highest, keeping Sweden one of the most peaceful countries in the world and one of the biggest givers of aid per capita.

Infact, look at USA, it's very different over there. One of the least peaceful countries in the world, some of the highest crime rates, and quality of life is comparatively low in the developed world. And look, 75% christians. I'm not saying christianity causes those things, I'm saying religion doesn't guide morality, it can, but it's only one source, we have plenty of sources. 

@bold: Ahaha, you're blaming violence in the USA on christianity. That is deep. Many aplauses to you for that one, a good laugh it was. EDIT: Okay, I see what you mean now, after rereading it 3 times. You mean that even though 75% are christian, there is still much violence there despite it. I'm off to bed again :B

On a more serious note, violence in the US is more likely due to racism (on hispanics, blacks, middle-easterns), gangs, greed, madness and other natural human tendencies. Order in Sweden et al. is only an illusion and will only last for a time. When people get bored of it (which they will in time), you will find anarchy. Like in the UK right now, or signs of it at least.

Lol padib. KEEP READING. Proof of this is all the countries I have mentioned.

"And look, 75% christians. I'm not saying christianity causes those things, I'm saying religion doesn't guide morality, it can, but it's only one source, we have plenty of sources. "

An illusion? anarchy? LOL YOU. ARE. CRAZY.
Just get over the fact that the most peaceful countries in the world, countries with the lowest crime rates and higher quality of life, the most giving countries per person are the countries with the most atheists and agnostics (there is a strong positive correlation).
It's been like this for the last 80 years (excluding the commies ofcouse, but that's the fault of oppression and intolerance rather than atheism, it could happen with any religious viewpoint. Religion was replaced by an oppressive government that wanted the people to treat their government as God, not atheism).

I don't even need to show you actual statistics to prove this to you (like I already did), I'll just let you know that I don't believe in your God or any other, yet I'm not racist, I'm not in a gang nor do I want to be in one, I'm not greedy and I'm not mad. (just like everyother atheist, christian, agnostic, muslim and deist I know).





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