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Player1x3 said:

No, they weren't and you know it. Not in Europe at least or Middle East. Romans and Greeks, for an example,issued a law in the Theodosian Code (C. Th. 9.7.3) in 342 CE that  imposed severe penalties or death on same-sex marriage in ancient Rome and Greece. I know that gays are now liberals new favourite minority (sorry,black person ) but you guys cant just go around changing history, that can seriously damage the new generations of people.

Democracies in pre slavery era allowed only free people to vote. Post war era allowed every citizen to vote. But you're missing the point, voting has nothing in common with marriage.Voting is a method for a group such as a meeting or an electorate to make a decision or express an opinion That's by no means a tradition. For a far leftist liberal, your pretty lame at cherry picking

Well, you called it contract, mot me. I see it as a tradition

Ah yes, the beuty of open world...so why not let a gorilla and a spider get married with a duck and  giraffe? The beauty of open world.

Point ignored

Point ignored

An individual is a person or any specific object or thing in a collection. Individuality (or selfhood) is the state or quality of being an individual; a person separate from other persons and possessing his or her own needs, goals, and desires. Being self expressive. Wants to be as independent as possible from society.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individual

God damn, you suck at this

Funny thing, the fact that they imposed those laws regarding same sex marriage (which happened after christians took over BTW, oh those peaceful christians and their killing people), it meant that it was practiced before. So you kinda contradicted yourself.

Marriage is a contract, not a tradition, because it's reglemented by law, and creates a legal relationship between the people who partake in it. Tradition was used against the ideea of women voting.

And you really should learn what an open society is. And read a little something on law, and philosophy (and even theology). Animals are not considered to be individuals. First of all, the definition you provided says 'a person or persons', except, animals are not persons. Personhood only applies to humans.



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