sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:
sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:
sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:
Which largely doesn't really gel, based on the fact that his family wasn't that religious for a large part of his life.
As for Pathological lying... it depends on how you define it. In this case it was being used as "He lies repeatidly to get what he wants." Which could be said of any number of people. For example people addicted to perscription drugs who constantly go doctor shopping to get their fix.
In this case there was no insentive to lie. In fact he ended up owning up for what the psyciatrist says he was lying about.
As for the diagnosis... I'm not sure if you missed this in another thread recently, but actually diagnosing a patient's motivations is actually is something you tend to not want to do because it's largely a guess and can cause negative effects. Remember the whole DID/Sybil discussion? It didn't really matter in this case, since it's a court case and really how much more fucked up could the guy get? However, it's foolish to treat a psychological evaluation as a medical doctor's evaluration, and even they aren't spot on all the time.
Hell, considering they needed that doctor to testify you can gurantee the defense had a psychologist that argued the exact opposite... depending on how many psycolgoists testified you can gurantee there was way more then one diagnosis.
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This is true, especially 'cause the defense initially argued that he was insane. I do think he had a reason to lie, that being that his father planned to use him as some sort of endorser for born again christians and creationism. Why he did it, I do not know. But as I said, that entire interview was phony.
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What does that get HIM though?
I mean all accounts put him as a sociopath. What his father wants should be pretty pointless to him...
Furthermore, why would his father want to use him like that? This is a man who himself greatly struggled with his faith... not exactly the types that are out their beating the drum for their religion.
I think you only wish to see the interview as phony because it gels with your world view better that way. There really isn't any reason to lie like that.
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From that very interview he seemd exactly like the type of person who beats the drum for their religion. He's an active advocate for creationism, and it seems to me like it's pretty clear that he was using that interview as a vehicle to portray evolution and non belief as evil. Even the way the interview is titled is meant to suggest that. The guy isn't taking responsability for his actions, but blaming his non-belief and evolution for influencing him to think that he didn't have to do that. What he personally had to gain from this, I do not know, but it doesn't change the fact that the 'interview' (you might as well call it an infomercial for creationsim) was one big joke.
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A) Your confusing what the youtube video was called vs the actual interview. The actual name of the show I believe was "Confessions of a Serial Killer."
B) Are you talking about Dhamer here or his father? He specifically said he was taking responsibility for his actions and was just explaining his mindset in decision making. I mean everyone has a reason they make a choice to do anything. I mean shit, if he said he did it because of Chritisanity you'd be all over it. Hell you look high and low for cases of things you think you can maybe possibly blame on Christianity.
Your being intellectually dishonest in the handling of it.
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And he was putting the blame on something else, regardless of what he is saying. Plus, as I said, the whole interview is dishonest (more so than I can be interpreted as being). As MrBubbles said, they guy and his fatehr had some angle, and they were not being genuine.
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Except... he wasn't?
If you steal something because you were hungry... and SAY you stole something because you were hungry, and then admit you were wrong for doing so. You aren't shifting the blame on being hungry.
As for sounding off... he's a serial killer, in jail, who is a born again creationist... I'd think it'd be a surprise if he didn't sound "off".
The whole thing is completely consistant with what was said about him and serves no actual agenda.
I mean what does"I didn't believe in god so i killed people because i felt i may as well enjoy my life without restraint" actually do to help creationism?
Is anyone actually going to say "I'm going to believe in god soley so i don't become a serial killer?"
