Xbox 360 Vs. Playstation 3 2012 - *February* Update

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Michael-5 said:

MARCUSDJACKSON said:

Michael-5 said:

 

BF3 -> Yes, but MW3 is twice as big. It will boost 360 over PS3. hell i've already said thats more probable. th boost will be significant. 360 americas still has to catch up to PS3 EMEAA considering how high sells are there, but i can see we're not getting anywhere here. moving on..

Japan has a minimal affect on MW3, it's mostly Americas region, and a small influence from EMEAA. refer to previous statement

PS3 doing better in Americas then EMEAA... I said before Americas get a more dramatic push from Holiday sales. After December EMEAA sales will be again higher for PS3 then 360. This shows how important the Americas region is in Q4. PS3 EMEAA sells are higher then 360 Americas now and won't be going down so easily. 360 Americas will haft to catchup to PS3 EMEAA sells for it to tie and let alone out sell it ww.

COD not as big in the EMEAA? thats what many said about BF3 and the sells tell the tell.

Yea, but if you just look at the numbers for CoD sales, you could wrongly imply that the franchise is getting more popular on the PS3 faster then it is for the 360, which is incorrect. No CoD this gen will sell better on a PS3 platform, even if PS3 overtakes 360 total sales before the last CoD title, it will still sell better on X-Box, and push 360 sales more strongly as it is a largly 360 favoring genre. That's my point.

well why didn't you just say that. we could have saved allot of space in this thread if you would have just said that. anybody with a brain would know that. hell people with no brain would know that.

all you have to do is look at the preorders for not only COD games but BF games aswell. neither game will sell better on PS3 then 360. the dead could walk the earth and tell you that, but at the end of the day right now we have no idea whats going to happen next wk but i can promise you 2 things. hardware sells are going to be close. and there will be adjestments.

I'm not trying to argue for 360 specifically, it's just the way I word things. I keep talking abut 360 outpacing PS3 on x weeks, but I rarely talk about PS3 outpacing 360 on x weeks. It's because PS3 will outpace 360 on Uncharted 3 week, and on Japanese FFXIII-2 week, no question. Just for weeks where both consoles get a system pushing even (CoD, Black Friday, etc) I think 360 will get more of a push, and this is the more subjective part of my arguement. The only real head to head week where both consoles have a different system seller (Halo and PS3 colours week), I still talk in terms of 360 because I really can't predict the Japanese market. I don't know how big system colours will be fr the PS3, but I have an idea for how much of a boost Halo will give. same here but i haven't seen the hype from my core halo fans an i don't know anyone from Japan so we'll see.

So yes, we can both be wrong or right, I'm not trying to make my arguement one sided, but I guess since the holidays are pro-Americas, and 360 is strong in Americas, I will continuously be talking from the 360's perspective. Come January, when holidays are over, maybe I'll switch to PS3's perspective. i don't like being wrong and thats why i make the case for every scenario. i don't favor things by what i like but by the biggest scope i can buy and if that doesn't work then i'll get a bigger one. have you seen  the predictions in my sig?

i account for everything so that i leieve nothing out, butwe did not see no matter the ratio PS3 outselling the 360 the wk of BF3. and whether or not 360 saw the biggest boost we ate crow not from anyone on this site but from the PS3 and Sony for doubting PS3 outselling the 360during a wk 360 should have had in the bag but didn't.

Google Black Ops PS3 Amazon Bundle. They released it 2 weeks after E3, and that week PS3 suddenly saw a 18% jump in sales, only in the Americas region. You can't blaime E3 for this because it's only 1 region that saw the boost, and it was after a solid weeks data came in after E3 (not including) where sales were unaffected. well thanks for doing the work for me. i was only interested in when the bundle was released and you've answered that so you get a thumb's up. so we still have no idea why BLOPS boosted on PS3.

Also you showed me Bloodforge before. It looks cool. you know i gots to show you the goods when i get them lol!

user Zlejedi reported on those 8 Move games and he's 1 of vgc's best journalist heres the link http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=136219&page=1#21

Those Move games all look like shovelware. At least Dance Central 2 is a quality title. nope dance central is shovelware to. any dance game is shovleware, but quality is in the eye of the beholder.

Post MW3, 360 Americas sales will start trumping PS3 EMEAA sales. Watch. (It's only 20k behind now, geez) if you say so, but i'm not a betting man. and if i was i'd still say they'll have sells equal or on par.

BF3 sold 50% as well in EMEAA on the PS3 as it did in Americas, and what really shocks me 10% as well in Japan (that's high!) That gives BF3 roughly a 60% 30% 10% split among the 3 territories. So my point about MW3 and BF3 being much bigger in Americas is still valid. On 360 BF3 sold nearly 4 times as well in Americas as it did EMEAA, so the split is actually about 74% 25% 1% ok i get your point. i got your point when we started but what i said will be the only thing people remember. i'm not talking about how valid the software sells or who got the biggest boost. i'm talking about the only thing people will remeber and thats that PS3 beat 360 ww in a wk 360 was supose to win.

your other debates in this thread have been broken down yr. by yr. but before hand it was about what people remebered. until you have this debate with someone else and they say that BF3 boosted PS3 hardware better then it did for the 360. you'll remeber this and say MDJ told me this would happen.

As for MW3...I think you missed my second point that it will always boost 360 sales more then PS3. I meant that the difference will always be great too, not just that there will be a difference. you underestimate me again. if you reread every post we've made so far you'll noticed i made the most balanced arguement you could make for both consoles to see a significant boost but it always came back to what happened in the past. not matter how much i posted things don't have to repeat themselves if MW3 or any COD wouldn't have a bigger boost on 360 then there would be no reason for the deal with MS and Activsion now would it?

i know what COD in general does for 360 hardware, but to me the end result has never been impressive. sell 10m more hardware and software units then the comp who seems to have better legs with this deal and then you'll have my attention. thats my message to MS. long story short this DLC deal with the exclusive advertisement wasn't worth it if it doesn't help you beat your comp. when you make a deal with a company it has to bare real fruit. has this deal helped 360 beat PS3 in the past 3 yrs ww which is how long the deal was said to last? no it has not so MS would have been better off not making the deal knowing they would see the bigger hardware boost regardless.

Sony could have made the same deal although i doubt it would have helped much, but instead they built up there first party ip, and exclusives are more important to me, but we've been down this road so theres no need for a repeat.

i haven't miss understood anything you've said so far cause on the COD side i agree with you but i persent an open argument pointing out the strengths and weaknesses of the hardware in question. if the multicolor PS3 consoles comeout the same wk MW3 releases then its an equaly up hill battle for the hardware in question. i never said one sided battle nore did i say PS3 will beat 360 when MW3 comes out. i only presented what the boost will do for both. so again PS3 hardware won't be that far behind  and if the multicolor consoles come out that wk it won't be that far ahead if its ahead.

For Halo. Halo CEA is significant. Most people getting into Halo now will likely not have played Halo 1 or 2 from last gen, and Halo 1 is the best rated FPS ever. Remaking Halo 1 for the 10 year anniversary could get many new gamers really into Halo. Same logic applies to Zelda with the port of Ocarina of Time, but Halo CEA sales will be bigger because a) it comes with a map pack for Halo: Reach, b) it's $40, c) it's releasing in the peak November period. Halo and Zelda in the same sentence make me laugh lol. Halo ahsn't ben inventiv in a long time. reach is likely the most inventive to date but the first most of the time is always the best. look i'm not saying it won't help it just won't do big numbers. preorders helps us indicate what the first wk sell of sofetware will be, and at this point Halo:CE won't do much of anything. also i'm glad you didn't say Halo is the best FPS of all time cause thats crazy talk, but also opinion.

I'm very interested to see Halo CEAs sales compare to ODST's. Halo:CE won't do half as good as odst did. look at the preorders. as a matter a fact find Halo odst preoders and compare them.

Anyone can be wrong, no matter how big of a scope you look at it with. For all you know you could be looking in the wrong direction all together. Anything is possible, but your still inclined towards certain perceptions of the market. Just saying I think x will outsell y, but it might not, doesn't change the fact that you think x might outsell y. i don't think anything which is why i present an argument for both sides, and i don't remeber saying i think. i have an open perception of the market looking at the logic of the situation.

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We have no idea why BO boosted on PS3? I told you. Bundle after E3, and the 2 months after that people were just getting into it on PS3, where most 360 owners already had it. Post Gears, there is more competition on 360, so it makes sense PS3's BO sales are less hindered. so your telling me a bundle from E3 has an affect 5 months latter! your kidding me right?

if your not trying to pull a funny and i love the funny then the only other question i can ask is when did the bundle start? cause if it started just after E3 i simply can't believe the boost or bundle has lasted this long and we'll just have to move on.