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sapphi_snake said:
HappySqurriel said:
This artists work is not that bad being that it is at least aesthetically pleasing, but a large portion of modern art is meaningless junk thrown together by shallow people with no talent that appeals to shallow people who desperately want to feel like they’re part of the cultural elite.

I would generally not have a problem with this if these artists were being funded privately but, being that the government funds terrible artists to produce trendy modern art garbage that is so poor quality that even shallow "cultural elite" types have no interest in it, I get annoyed when it is government funded and low quality.

I'm actually amazed at how you manage to connect any issue with your distaste for the Government. And I never knew that art had to be aesthetically pleasing. I'm also curious, who is more shallow: intellectual wannabes, who praise something they don't understand because it makes them look good and feel superior, or the intellectually challenged, who bash something they don't understand because they're frustrated they can't and feel inferior because of that? I'd say there's not much difference between these 2 categories.

I'm a libertarian in nature and I am willing to accept/ignore things I find distasteful as long as it has no impact on me; unfortunately, well intentioned fools have the government involved in (practically) all areas of life and as a result things that shouldn’t have any impact on me do have an impact on me.

 

With that said, there are certain conventions in all mediums which define whether they're considered a creative work in that medium; and there are certain qualities of creative works that tend to be required for them to be considered art. For example, in music we require far more than a random assortment of sounds before we consider something to be a piece of music and we set a much higher standard for which music becomes a work of art. We don’t praise the work of a 2 year old who is banging a spoon on a metal pot while screaming his favourite 4 letter word at the top of his lungs as being a great piece of art.

In literature it requires more than just a random collection of characters on a page before we consider something to be a poem, novella, novel, or play; and we don’t consider all works to be art/literature. No one would argue that the dirty limericks written in a bathroom stall were works of literature.

In visual arts today there are rules, but the rules have very little to do with talent, aesthetics, originality, or depth of message; and I can`t believe that artists that were working before the 1960`s would find any kinship with these shallow hacks.