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Khuutra on 05 November 2011
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RolStoppable said:
Khuutra said:

....The... lore. I have to admit that part of your argument is the one I assumed you were joking about, but all right.

So let's suppose that Mario Bros.'s setting and characters and elements were propagated throughout the rest of the series, becoming a feeding ground for all or at least the majority of spinoffs (though, uh, this is actually already the case). This would make it the main series?

The Mario series is more than just Mario and Luigi. This is common sense, but you disregard the common sense argument.


That's more than enough of that shit, thank you. I'm asking questions, and that's all I've done so far.

At this point, at least, we've established that primacy - coming first - is not a necessary part of being the "main" series. You've pointed to other things - lore, money, sequels, consumer choice - as being so much more important that they supersede the question of what game is the progenitor of anything. Spinoffs are not excluded from being the main game so long as they are important.

So

Suppose that I am very rich - not just rich, the richest man in the world. My personal funds are bigger than the GDP of some small countries.

Suppose I say to Nintendo, "Okay. I tell you what. If you make a Mario pornography game, I will buy thirty million copies." My reasons here don't matter.

Now, Nintendo, in secret, creates and releases this game. It is a Mario porn game. I buy thirty million copies of it. They make a sequel, and I buy thirty million more.

But I do not stop there.

Using my more or less infinite funds I take on the role of advertising for this game, propagating it throughout the porn-consuming world, and suddenly it explodes. The platform is appears on - Wii or DS - suddenly ramps up its sales for years, until it settles comfortably at half a billion units moved, and this Mario Porno sells more or less the same - slightly more, because people eventually wear out the disc. Its sequel does about the same.

The new elements introduced in this game - I won't say what, but it involves boobies with googly eyes - become an intrinsic part of popular culture. Mario isn't just popular in porn, it becomes a teaching tool used to illustrate different elements of sexuality to people. It's the jump-off point for another sexual revolution, and Nintendo are the guys who started it. Every other Mario game thereafter, regardless of setting or intent, includes some sort of sexually explicit element to it and also incorporates the setting elements introduced in Mario Porn.

Consumers choose it as the Mario game, it makes Nintendo the most money, it builds their war chest enough to sustain them for hundreds of years, it completely changes the landscape of every other Mario game for the foreseeable future, every single one of its eventula dozen or so releases sells more than every other Mario game combined, and it becomes intrinsic to the name "Mario" all over the world.

Would Mario Porn then be the main Mario series?