Kasz216 said:
richardhutnik said:
Kasz216 said:
badgenome said:
richardhutnik said:
If an industry is requiring people to take out loans that are increasingly getting to be the size of a mortgage, what does one expect the industry to do?
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Why are all the protests directed at industry, and not a single one is aimed at the universities who charge an exorbitant amount for a degree of questionable value?
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Because they aren't so much mad that they were lied to as they are mad that the lie isn't true.
It would be like being told Santa Claus isn't real as a kid, and not being mad or upset at your parents for lying but being mad at the Macy's Santa for not shelling out for gifts for you.
I'm not even sure it's a "Lie" though.
All I was ever told about college is that if you get a degree is SOMETHING then you are much more likely to get a job.
Which is true, look at the comparative unemployment rates.
If anything I think i'd blame it more on "immortality" syndrome. I forget what it's really called, but in general the belief that all bad things happen to other people and everything will work out for you because you view yourself as special.
It's like when people who love music and start a band complain because the "music industry is keeping them down and letting no talent hacks make music."
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The lies are like this:
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/214426/20110915/unemployment-jobs-economy-college-graduate.htm
The shorthand report over and over and over again is that a B.S degree will make you do better. It doesn't differentiate between what degree either. And while what you can say is 100% true, it doesn't mean there aren't other problems also contributing to things. And yes, people want the lie to be true, because it is comforting to know that it is true.
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BS degrees are a lot more then 5% of the population, so i'd say that a BS degree actually does help you to a degree getting employment.
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But being employeed and having a career that makes meaningful use of your (expensive) degree are two very different things. With the number of people I've met with Degrees (often Masters and PHDs) in the humanities and social sciences who are working as baristas or clerks in book stores, it has become clear that there is a lot of degrees where the majority of students are substantially worse off for having gone to university because they're earning (about) as much as a high-school graduate does but have tens of thousands of dollars of debt and lost several years of work experience.
