Xbox 360 Vs. Playstation 3 2012 - *February* Update

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Michael-5 said:

MARCUSDJACKSON said:

Michael-5 said:   I don't wanna spend anymore time on VGC...trying to cut back....wah... yea i'm not here all day. i'm on WWE.COM People who buy consoles now, don't have any "must have" titles. They buy a 360 for Halo, and PS3 for Uncharted, and it's likely they will want to start their consoles life with the older games. 5 cheap games bundled in the console will likely entice new console buyers more then the newest version of 1 or two of those franchises. meh not to sure about that Sony will have a good January/February, MS will likely break even for March, then who knows. yea For faith. I feel Kinect will push sales in Novemeber/December because it's a casual add on, and like Wii Fit and the Wii, sales tend to jump in November/December. well i can except feel but i don't like that either. i feel nothing concerning this areguement. its all bout what i see. the proof. the facts vidence to support the claim. for every argument theres a counter until you both agree or say we arn't going to agree and agree to drop it, but thats not an issue for us. we've agreed allot more then most would think as a core 360fand PS3, PC fan would normaly. i also saw your arguing about black friday, but looking at the numbers other then 09 your right but wht makes it a pointless argument is that 360 only outsold PS3 by 1m on 1 of those friday's and that was in 07. when you can cut a gap from 1m to a few 100k then you've done something.  50-100k was for all 4 consoles. The White PS3 of the mid summer also came with a hard drive boost, and November isn't the Japanese holiday season like it is elsewhere. Also many people interested in a coloured PS3, may have gotten a coloured PS3 in a previous limited edition coloured release, so adding colours now should be less dramatic. not sure about that. i'm sure its never the same colours. History can repeat itself. Every time CoD launches, 360 gets better sales, again, except for 2009, and 2007 because CoD wasn't big then.  now i flip the same coin i did in our last discution about this. history doesn't have to or always repeat its self. BF3 was a sure shot at majorly boosting 360 hardware more then PS3's, but we both saw what happened and got egged for it. and it always sell better on 360, but PS3 got the bigger boost this time. i'm not doubting 360 will have a more significant boost then PS3 but over time COD on PS3 has become a more recognisable brand. take a look at the sells chartz for last wk and the ones that are up now. the only version of COD you see in the top 50 is the PS3 version, and its up wk over wk significantly. again i look at whats infront of me. average it out by what i know about it. and the come to a conclusion. and that conculsion with a rapedly closing gap. i'm not talking about the hardware gap. i'm talking about the softeware. the gape use to be about 6m i think in favor of 360 when concerning cod. but like everything else that gap continues to close and with both the console and software gap being less then 3m how can you think the 360 will outright have this boost over the PS3 version. your using sound logic but you not taking everything and accounting for it. i guess that my job? if this was 07-08-10 then we wouldn't even be discussing this. but this is 2011 and most of all the software released multiplatform in the past is showing better legs on PS3. if you tell me those leg don't mean sells when MW3 releases then you'd only be half right.

Like I said, 360 has a chance of cutting the gap. The gap this year is 1.5 million, which isn't huge. I think 360 should be able to cut it to the 500k-1 million range. doubt it.

For colours, isn't white one of the colours this fall? White has been promoted several times, and I think red has been done before too. the white not sure about the red one.

Actually BF3 boosted 360 sales by 33% and PS3 sales by 20%. It boosted 360 more, but PS3 was just a little too far ahead of 360 for it to make 360 lead. However MW3 is a bigger game, it will break that threshold. i'm not so sure about that. PS3 is rolling of a month where its sells were higher. 

COD on PS3 is a more recognizable brand? Did you forget the PSN Catastrophe? CoD is a shooter, shooters are big on 360 => CoD is a 800lb Ape on Steroids with 360. i didn't say its more recognizable. i siad its becoming more recognizable to PS3 users. not the outside the inside. those who already own the console. 

as for the PSN Catastrophe. not many users cared about it as PSN reported an increase in user base on PSN and an increase in PSN sells. not did you forget about that?

MW3 for PS3 almost dipped below Black Ops Pre-Orders, and is only looking to be above Black Ops Pre-Orders by a week. 3 weeks before release, MW3 on 360 topped Black Ops total Pre-orders. MW3 on 360 may end up with 50% the Black Ops, but for PS3, the jump may only be 20%. good point but the same could be said for the BF3 situation.

As for the CoD Gap.....I've heard your arguement before, ad there is a simple answer. Look at the tie ratios. PS3 and 360 have been selling nearly on par for the last few years. So a 5 million hardware gap in 2007 plays a critical role when there are only 20-25 million consoles out there versus a 2 million hardware gap when there are nearly 60 million consoles out there. If you pay attention the the tie ratio (units of CoD sold compared to hardware units) 360 has always had more, and in fact, on 360 the tie ratio is growing faster then on PS3. good point but ratios mean nothing to me even as a business major. i'm more on the marketing side so that could be the reason why.

i'm looking at the market and whats going on now not yr's past. yea sure MW3 sells will boost hardware and the 360 boost may be bigger. looking at preorders you'd think that. but for 1 minute lets put preorders to the side. theres one unknown variable and that's those who don't prorder. the other is we don't know what EMEAA preorders are. another variable is how much the PS3's pricecut will affect sells during that wk ww. yea sure COD games haven't helped PS3 in those areas before but neither has BF3 and we both know how hat turned out. don't give me any crap about PS3 pricecut lossing its affect either.

the best we can hope for at this point is that either 360 sells boost equals that of the EMEAA PS3 at present time cuase the wayi see it thats about all it can do looking at recent wk's. but i'll wait for Nov. first wk numbers come in then we'll se how thing will likely playout.

i look at it ike this. what ever 360 sells in Americas the wk MW3 comes out PS3 EMEAA will likely sell the same and Japan will either even it out or give PS3 then win for that wk. if not that PS3 won't be that far behind in sells the wk of or after.

there is a real possiblity 360 will lead those 2 wks but just like GEARS3 UC3 will have an effect that wk aswell so either as i said sells will average out or one will lead the other but i won't say anything until next wk numbers come in. its the 1st wk of Nov. right? i'll look at the americas and EMEAA to see what UC3 did and if the hardwar boost was significant then the next wk which is MW3 wk we'll know what will happen. but i expect EMEAA and Americas to cancel out.

As for Black Ops legs, only after PSN went down, and there was a limited edition Black Ops PS3 bundle, did Black Ops start to sell more units on PS3 then 360. CoD doesn;t necessarily have better legs on P3 then 360. They are just more stable, where 360's legs are really fat along the thighs (the first 6 months). lol. there is no bundle now so why have sell increased?