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LivingMetal on 04 November 2011
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Michael-5 said:
LivingMetal said:
Michael-5 said:
 

Not the same idea. In 2009, the price cut was a much more dramatic effect because it put PS3 into the affordable price range. $200 was the point when all prior gen consoles sold the greatest, and with inflation, that value is closer to $300 (VGC had an article comparing Wii's launch price to prior Nintendo launch prices showing that with inflation, they have all been about the same. They did this to estimate Wii U's launch price, dunno where the article is).

So even if the 2011 price cut match the % cut of the 2009 price cut, it's less dramatic. It was already affordable.

When PSP cut it's price earlier this year, sales only lifted for a month, despite a strong price cut (wasn't it $180 to $120, a 33% cut?). If PSP or PS2 got 25% price cut now, sales would not double like PS3's did in 2009.

Also look at other years, 360 did sell better on other Black Fridays. Why is it logical for 360 to sell better on Black Friday then PS3? Well Black Friday is a US sales holiday, and guess what. 360 outsells PS3 nearly 2:1 in the Americas region.


Ok.  So if $300 placed the PS3 more into a more afforable price range (which I agree with you, then $250 (the $50 price drop from $300) makes it even more afforable.  You're doing a good job proving Pezus' point.  Again, you first said the "360 always got a bigger boost."  What is your reasoning, and why?

After I said "360 always got a bigger boost" I also wrote (I think). It's key not to edit that line out. I was correct for every year except 2009 (and I'm not sure about 2007 because I dunno which week BF was). I already justified my reasoning.

As for being affordable.

The arguement for 2009 was Not Affordable--->Price Cut/Slim-----> Affordable, more reliable (not first gen), and sexy. Many sexy new IP's around the corner

The arguement for 2011 is Affordable for 2 years, with lots of great games released with sequals------>Wii U announced, speculation on an upcoming PS4------> More Affordable, but few new IP's releasing.

Get the logic? A smaller price cut, on an already affordable console, this late into the consoles lifetime, especially with very few new IP's releasing...won't boost as many consoles as it did in 2009, when thoughts on the PS3 were more skeptical.

Also, didn't Blu-Ray just eliminate HD dvd in 2008 or 2009? At that point in time, people were also finally thinking of getting a Blu-Ray player and not worrying about getting the wrong device.

 

I was just asking for your resaoning as to why you though the Xbox 360 outsold the PS3 on Black Friday when it did.  So let me restate my question more clearly: Why do you think the Xbox 360 outsold the PS3 during Black Friday other than 2009?  And I personally do not think that the PS3 will outsell the Xbox 360 during Black Friday 2011, but it has a fighting chance.  The logic here is that a $250 price point is more attractive than a $300 price point, the PS3 has more retail content than the Xbox 360 because of its exclusives, most any newer multiplatform content on the Ps3 is at least just as good on the Xbox 360, the free PSN has matured more over the past two years, the Blu-ray market has also matured more which makes the PS3 more enticing, and the PS3 is still the newer console.  So the PS3 is on far more even footing with the Xbox 360 than ever.  Again, I'm not claiming the PS3 will outsell the Xbox 360 on Black Friday 2011.  And even if it doesn't, the factors I just pointed out still current apply to the worldwide market which helps valid the stated topic of this thread.

 

EDIT: Oh, and Blu-Ray started to eliminated HD-DVD in EARLY 2008 (January).  You can thank the market for that when consumer held off on movie sales on optical media which resulted in a decline of sales for the 2007 Christmas shopping season which resulted in Warner Brother dropping support for HD-DVD in favor of Blu-Ray which sealed HD-DVD's fate.