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Kasz216 on 03 November 2011
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HappySqurriel said:
Kasz216 said:
chocoloco said:
 

Indeed that was the case.

Previously unretracted statements that contradict what your saying now very much was part of the present topic.

Now that you've retracted them though, I have no real issue at hand.  Though if you were unwilling to, it essentially invalidates your entire arguement.

The one thing that really bugs me more then anything is fairly obvious intellectual dishonsety.

 

As far as off topic goes... any plans to go furhter into psychology degree wise?   I realized half way through my BA that basically every main branch of psychology has near identical therapy treatment records essentially invalidating them all making the research and teaching fields pretty useless.

Just on the bolded ...

I don't know if it was true or not, but in school my statistics professor used to make the comment that studies had yet to demonstrate that psychoanalysis was more effective than a placebo for most recognized mental illnesses; and he repeatedly used psychology and sociology as fields that are based on lying with statistics.


I wouldn't say sociology was based on lying with statistics, though there are a certain number of people who do so to keep their beliefs alive.

As for Psychology... in truth the value of a professional psychologist seems to be having an unjudging person as support that you can feel free to unload all of your complaints and insecurities on while they work through their problems.

There is a lot that can be taught on how to be a good therapist...  and they need a lot of training to spot the correct diseases and such... but stuff like pschoanalysis can actually be harmful as the psychologist may end up leading people down the wrong path, mistaking the cause for the problem as something it isn't because it's a "classic case of such and such." (For those who have non permanent diseases obviously.)

Making them think they have problems they don't have.

To use a recent example.  Dissosiative Identity Disorder doesn't really exist naturally.  All the evidence shows it's basically a disease caused by psychologists accidently (hopefully)"teaching" people to assosiate different moods and feelings with differnet personalities.

The book that set it off ironically, Sybil was recently found to be based on a fraud.

This is generally why though Freudian psychology is looked down opon in the psychological community in general compaired to the other fields.

Often described as a psychological pyrmaid scheme with a common comment often being that "Freudian Psychologist's patients are mostly people who want to become Fruedian psychologists".  

Since it's suggested that Fruedian's go through psychoanalysis themselves.

Other fields are better at actual treatment, though roughly as good as each other.

 

In general psychology ironically probably do better scrapping 80% of the theory and focusing just on the diseases and therapy treatments... all of the psychological paths all seem to be pretty poorly supported currently.  Even all the expirmental forms of psychology seem to be woefully inaccurate.