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Kasz216 on 30 October 2011
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sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:

A) Romania isn't even remotely representative of the rest of the country.

B) Don't have these types of situations in your schools? http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=845_1208868655

C) Couldn't say.  Statistics on such things are fairly rare to come across and tend to be inaccurate do to the tendency to use official government sources which ignore underreporting.  For example, it's found that spousal abuse in romania and other forms of corporal punishment are greatly underreported vs other countries.

Additionally, Romania isn't exactly top of the list for internetional studies anyway and for some reason actually dropped out of the study on this matter. 

Usually doesn't mean things are going great when that happens... all i could find would suggest that it'd be near the top of the charts though, so i'd be interested why you think it'd be low.

For example, 8.4% of kids in the US self report being bullied once per week or moe... and 10.6 sometimes

http://www.martialartsforpeace.com/pages/bullyingstatistics.html

Vs the city in romania where it's

55% and 40.5%... which is just silly high.  (Perhaps it's the city?)

http://ami.info.umfcluj.ro/Full-text/AMI_27_2010/AMI27%284%29_062_066.pdf

For what it's worth though, the US does do better (to the reporst) vs Romanian Neighbor the Ukraine, and in general seems to fall around the middle of Europeon countries.

A. Do you mean continent? Romania is a country.

B. They really aren't common. You'd see stuff like this on the news, but really, you don't (not to mention that it didn't even take place at schools per se). The only case similar to that I can think of resulted in the bullies getting expelled. I've also only seen 1 person in real lfie get bullied, and it was in grades 5-8. Bullying would also depend on the school you go to, especially in high school. In Romania you get assigned to a high school based on the grades you got in grades 1-8 and your results at a big national test, so there are schools filled with intelligent students (and such things rarely happen there) and you have schools filled with trash (like the individuals you saw in that video), but over there you have things more akin to 'gang wars' than to bullying.

Of course, I was probably ver ysheltered by my overprotective parents, so maybe I was just lucky and didn't witness such things.

C. The main problem I have with such studies is that they don't differentiate between the different types of bullying (teasing, physical violence etc.)


A) Yes.

B) It seems very antecdotal on your part.  Ever think there are more news stories about US bullies because the US has like... 15X the population and additionally a much larger and more active media that needs to basically fill a large number of 24 hour news sites and blogs, and additionally in general a larger share of the international news coverage.

B2)  That kind of schooling just seems... awful.  Keep with a system like that and you'll end up like asia.  Good schooling numbers on paper, but in reality a hell on earth for the students that live there.  Stuff like that leads to constant pressure being applied to students by their parents, all day/all night private tutor industry and destruction of any students free will, as there will always be someone willing to push there kid harder to get better grades... and for the majority of the population that's what makes the difference in grades.  Time and effort.

Over half your student population thinks their lives are "over" after the 8th grade and put in schools where only the "dumb" kids are, so they end up getting all the worst teachers, and little to no attention anyway... lesser funding, and probably ignored from any decent college no matter how well you do because you aren't from one of the universities that matter.

C) One form of bullying is indicitive of the others.