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jlauro said:
Final-Fan said:
Kasz216 said:

How can you justify abortions when the mother's life is in danger? And people under the age of consent?

How is killing someone else for those reasons any more right then killing people for other reasons? If you legally define a fetus as a person, you can't at all have abortions. For ANY reason. Including situations where there is literally no chance of either patient surviving.

It would go against the Hippocratic Oath. No doctor would perform a "legal" abortion.

Also, anyone who voted for such a law would be a hypocrite of the highest order. Giving fetuses conditional humanity is worse then none at all. It's something I can't understand in people who see fetuses as kids. It's the real inhumanity in this debate.

Well they wouldn't be hypocrites if they believed in speeding up people's deaths to save people on trasnplant lists and the like. But like I said. Inhuman.

(slight spelling corrections and the like have been performed by me on the above)

Epic win.  Pro-lifers who make exceptions for rape and so on are hypocrites. 

Every pro-lifer needs to be able to fully address this post. 

As for me, pro-choice.  Up to some point more than halfway through the pregnancy the life is not a person but rather a potential person, and in many cases the likely outcome of that potential is not good or even ruinous to the person, the mother/family, or both. 

Personally I am against most of the exceptions. That said, if the choices of reducing the murders a day by a million a year instead of a million and 100 thousand, or not being called a hypocrite and letting the killing of millions of inocent lives go on than I don't care what you call me.

Abortion is legal for all 9 months in the United States.  No one has answered yet what the difference is besides a few hours for labor and delivery.  I think you are a much bigger hypocrate if you are pro choice and don't support the parents killing their baby for the first few months or years after it's been born!

 

 


This has to be one of the most rediculous arguments I have ever seen a pro lifer make.  Its a metter of when real human existance begins, not potential human existance.  A zygote is not a human, it could become a human under the right circumstances.

But arguing that point, you must consider menstruation and teh death of all non-fertilizing sperm as murder too, because those sperm and eggs could become humans under the right circumstances. 

If you look at a religeous view on the subject, what makes us human is our free will and ability to reason which sets us apart from animals.  I am sure nearly 100% of you pro-lifers feel that eating meat is not wrong.  However, a collection of cells or even a being with a brain that does not have a developed enough cerebrum can't be capable of these things and therefore can't be called a human.

And let me clear something up that pro-lifers like to toss around.  No one is "Pro-Abortion," everyone would be happy if abortions never happened, and never needed to.  The opposing side to pro-life feels that its the mother's choice, and its VERY easy for us men to get on our moral high horses and spout from our ivory towers seeing as we will never be in a position where we have to make that choice.



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