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Kynes said:
Cypher1980 said:
Britain made peace with the IRA in the Good Friday Agreement
Spain seems to have got ETA to give up its weapons


They haven't given up their weapons, they said that they won't kill anymore, as they said in 1998 and 2006.


Exactly what I am talking about. The terrorist organizations that do not actually disarm and completely renounce violence are impossible to make peace with. These organizations don't want peace they just want a way to stay in power and regroup. The IRA disarmed and completely renounced violence and that is the only reason peace came. But in my OP I specifically talk about making peace with a terrorist group that does not disarm or in most cases even renounce violence.

Pakistan is one of my best examples. The Government every year or so attempts to end the conflicts within the country by signing cease fires and peace deals with not only the Taliban but many other terrorist groups. But every time within weeks to at latest months the terrorist group breaks the cease fire in an attack on the Government. Yet only months later the Government tries yet again to get a new cease fire.

As for the expectation that extremist groups would be imprisoned , tortured and killed if they disarmed. That is unlikely to happen in places where the UN or international forces are active. Somalia for example the UN lead Government would never condone executing all the Al Shabab members in fact most wouldn't likely face arrest either. In Afghanistan I can't say they would get as good treatment but if the Taliban completely disarmed they would likely be welcomed into the Government. Karzai has brought in tons of former war lords who surrendered weapons or joined the Government in defending the country. I can't see why the Taliban could not give up its weapons without much worry of being slaughtered, though I must admit many would likely still face arrest and some torture but I am betting the International community would do a lot to protect them. In Pakistan unlike Somalia and Afghanistan the UN and International forces are not present in a big way. But if the terrorist groups negotiated peace and gave up weapons I am pretty sure they too wouldn't face complete destruction.

Fact is if the terrorist group doesn't disarm and the Government is determined to beat them. Chances are the fighters and members will face slaughter and torture in far larger numbers. It is far better for the terrorist organization to renounce violence and disarm.

Now some would bring up Israel and Palestine. Well Hamas could disarm the reason they have needed weapons other then Israel is the fact that they can't control the streets without brute force. But Fatah proved that they could begin disarming and renouncing violence without the country going to hell. The Palestinian Authority is capable of controlling the streets if it continues to be built on schedule. Hamas over ran the Palestinian Authority in Gaza as well as Fatah's forces but if Hamas gave up its arms to the Palestinian Authority and renounced its intentions to destroy Israel peace could be acheived within 10 years!

But no cease fire with Israel will ever last. Hamas has no interest in a cease fire their end goal is to obliterate Israel and until that goal is changed and true peace is a goal Hamas will never stop fighting and being attacked!



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