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Kasz216 said:

I mean shoot, you don't see this kind of stuff happen in Occupy Las Vegas... because they actually know how to protest smartly without getting violent.

You talk to the organizers there and you see they actually do shit the right way, by informing the police, getting permits, and doing shit in general the right way...

in an area that's likely a lot worse then Oakland.


If most of the groups weren't headed by such hardcore anarchists (and yes there always are leaders even in a mob) shit like this wouldn't happen.

The large difference is, the people here know what they're doing.  Though probaby because the people here have run protests before, and smart ones that have worked and i've been a part of.

http://www.fox5vegas.com/story/15896734/occupy-las-vegas-working-to-avoid-problems

I mean shoot, if anything the police in general LOVE the Occupy Wallstreet protesters when they aren't intentionally provoking them.   Why?  Money man, you know what kinda overtime these guys are probably rarking in?  Largely just to stand there and watch the protestors?


They're going out of their way to avoid bankrupting local buisnesses as well unlike some of the other protesters.

I have looked into it further, and can only conclude that Oakland is one messed up community.  The community ended up rioting after the Raiders lost the Super Bowl last decade, setting cars on fire.  There is a reason the police are in riot gear and have that, it is because of a stupid feedback loop going on, with a community out of control, police going military and then this causing things to spiral.  And there isn't any video of the protesters throwing anything but paint, but there were reports, from the pro-Occupy side (I found later) that did report there were some throwing stuff.  It was a small minority, but enough to cause the police to go off.

I will say, as for anarchy, real anarchists who are fully against coersion don't go into violence, and don't preach it at all.  What you have on the other side are people prone to violence, driven by anger and hate, ready to go off.  Then you have the police escalate their response and preparation, and it is a mess.

As you said, other areas aren't having problems with the protesters.  I would say that what is going on is exposing the communities as a whole.