Battlefield 3 Loses $2,000,000 in Launch Day Sales to Pirates

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haxxiy said:

JamaicameCRAZY said:

Im so tired of hearing the excuse they wouldnt have bought it anyway. It is still stealing, its just the same as walking in a store and grabbing something and walking out. Its not ok. I know they may make a crap ton of money off this game and these are only a drop in the bucket but what about next time when people do this and it actually hurts the studio making the game. Its just stupid.

Sorry to blow your little candle off but no, by most reasonable standards it is not the same thing. Copyright infringement is not theft, period, no matter how much lobbyists in the USA try to make it not so. Cast aside for a little bit your irrational fear of suddenly being without your yearly Call of Duty because of piracy, which is not going to happen, and try to judge things more objectively and reasonably. 

If I seem a bit too rude, forgive me, but I study law in college and self-righteous paladins with dodgy logics like these simply piss me off like hell. It's the same kind of people that would put someone in jail for pedo for dating someone who's 17 years and 364 days simply because it's in the Code, and well, thinking reasonably spends too much brain power, so why bother.

Alright this post might get a little long so bear with me.

How am i not reasonable? Ive read other threads on the same subject and heard what people have to say. I still dont agree and this is just how i feel. I'm not worried at all about being without games from big publishers (WTF is with the Cod tid bit) most of the harm i was talking about was geared toward smaller companies. I just view the whole subject as if i had created the product and was trying to sell it how would i feel if someone else took what i made without giving me anything in return. There is so many ways to figure out if you like a game enough to buy it like written reviews, video reviews, demos, gameplay footage, 60 min degrading demos, barrowing a friends copy, comercials. You can do those long enough to figure out if you want the game or not. Im not saying its illegal and your absolutely going to jail, i am sure it depends on where you are and how you obtained the property. Also I am not saying piracy is all bad and it doesnt have any positives. To me it all boils down to this it doesnt matter if its physical/intellectual property you cant just take it without buying it or getting permission its stealing. Its more of a moral issue for me just admit that its stealing and you dont care or some other excuse, just dont try to hide behind the i wouldnt have bought it anyway or whatever. Heres a source for a good read.

 

"It is amazing that the mere mention of the concept intellectual property rights can elicit vastly different reactions in ordinary people, from complete indifference, causing the eyes to glaze over and the head to nod, to sheer panic, where the eyes widen and the heart pounds. Yet it is true. It all depends, of course, on whether that person has been affected by such rights, if at all. The term intellectual property, which has only been in existence since 1967, refers to a number of different rights: trademarks, patents,service marks and copyright.

Most people have difficulty understanding intellectual property rights, partly because of their abstract nature; they appear as just a bundle of invisible rights. Moreover, intellectual property rights are so complicated that it is easier to pretend they do not exist and to ignore them rather than to try to comprehend them. However, ignorance is no protection under the law - as many ordinary people have found out at their own expense. New international legislation regarding copyright has changed the way the public interacts with information, and as Bill Thompson, a commentator for the BBCWorld Service programme Go Digital, points out, the new legislation could make criminals of any one of us. Simply by using peer-to-peer network software to share unlicensed copies of films and music we could be breaking the law (Thompson 2003) .

How have we reached a situation where ordinary people can so easily find themselves breaking the law without even realising it? The answer lies in the changes to copyright law.

Copyright

Copyright law is concerned with protecting individuals' expression of ideas in the form of creative works; it does not protect the ideas themselves. "Copyright gives the creators of a wide range of material, such as literature, art, music, sound recordings, films and broadcasts, economic rights enabling them to control use of their material in a number of ways, such as by making copies, issuing copies to the public, performing in public, broadcasting and use on-line. Copyright also gives moral rights to be identified as the creator of certain kinds of material, and to object to distortion or mutilation of it. The purpose of copyright is to allow creators to gain economic rewards for their efforts and so encourage future creativity and the development of new material, which benefits us all" (UK Patent Office 2001)""

http://www.csa.com/discoveryguides/internet/overview.php

Two final little things whats with the condescending nature of your post. And would you go to jail for dating a 17 y/o if you were older i thought you would have had to had sex with them in order for it to be illegal.