| richardhutnik said: Darn shame the police don't bother to video record anything they do or the incident or whatever. Anyhow, if anyone is reading this here, who isn't really taking sides, let me know if you can seen ANY place there would be a chance to reach any common ground here? I am not seeing any of it. I swear, if something like Kent state happened with regards to Occupy, people would say the shooting was justified by the police. I also suggest people look at that video, and count how far away they are from the barricade. Go look at it. Seriously, look at it. I look at it several times and the crowd was feet away from it. Be interesting if anyone there could actually jump the fence. Hate to say this, but I don't see any way any conversation can take place here. If people can't even look at a video, showing an entire incident and even agree to what the basics of reality are, and can try to justify a grenade being thrown in a crowd of people who were surrounded someone downed, then how can any discussion even take place? If anyone has any idea, let me know. I just don't see it. And the grenade was thrown after the people surrounded, not while they were rushing. Seriously? I will say, if there isn't a chance to reach any common ground, things ARE lost here. This trend continues, the use of lethal force and corpses in the street will be seen as justified. Just keep on thinking the other side is more and more evil. It will happen. And in that, people will grow content with a police state that fatally enforces rules. And people protesting will be seen as wrong, because you know, the violence against them by the state only shows that they are in the wrong. And that is the game. Apparently zero interest in reaching any sort of common ground. Oh well, carry on. |
You weren't really watching the video were you?
1) Your video showing the whole thing, started with the guy on the ground, again NOT THE WHOLE THING. The "Whole thing" started with protestors lighting things on fire and throwing rocks and M80's at the police. If thorwing explosives at the police isn't reason for a nonlethal response... exactly what is?
http://news.yahoo.com/police-fire-tear-gas-protesters-throw-rocks-044055972.html
2) If you watch the video you'd not there are still people running while this is going on. How the fuck are the cops supposed to know the intentions of people who were just recently throwing rocks and explosives at them?
3) They weren't using lethal force?








