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@ Final........

Wow, do you honestly think that just because of my issues with sony that it means i have not played their products?

my game collection alone is proof that i have played sonys offerings.

@ Ace.........

Truthfully, i'm just telling it how i see it. Forza 3 is HANDS down the BEST console exclusive racer this generation and destroys GT5, however (and i'm still currently playing it as shown on my TA card below) Forza 4's A.I. genuinely does have issues........ so yes, GT5's A.I. is better, and yes, GT5 is a little better than Forza 4.

But the bottom line____________ here, is that GT5 was RAPED this gen by Forza 3.