The Official Dark Souls Thread - .....It Begins

[lestatdark]

Parasitic said:

lestatdark said:

Parasitic said:
Alright so does anyone know how to do a 2h riposte?

Last night I experienced the most painful thing ever. Put Iron Flesh up after someone invaded in anor londo when I wasn't ready. Backstabs me, not much damage. Parries my 2nd attack and holy shit....the animation goes into him on top of me, then he bashes me with the hilt of his lightning zwei for more than half my hp which is 1590.

And of course it killed me. My friend said to 2h your wep after a parry and that it requires specific timing. Not working for me so far.

Aside from the Homing Soulmass stuff, I've never seen anything hit so hard :z

It's only possible with either the use of a Target shield or a Parrying Dagger, since they increase the window of time after a parry has been achieved allowing you to switch to 2H and do the riposte attack.

I've tried it out myself and it's a killer, though since there's usually a certain amount of lag online, parrying really becomes a matter of chance. Plus, there are certain attacks that cannot be parried. Heavy weapons (Greataxes, Zweihanders, Great Clubs, etc.) when 2H and using the strong R2 attack are impossible to parry and the R1 attack has the smallest window of opportunity outside fast attack weapons.

And it doesn't matter if it was a lightning Zweihander doing the riposte. Actually, if the guy was carrying a Zweihander +15, he would have done much more than just half your health in the riposte, since lightning damage isn't calculated for the critical damage, just the physical damage. 

So is this how he did that "special" parry? I've been 2h riposting on a random enemy but it doesn't do the animation that the guy did. I'm really trying to figure out how did it cause it did an insane amount of damage.

I'd have a hard time believing that a +15 zwei would've done more damage. I'm assuming that maybe Iron Flesh has alot less lightning defense, seems like that sometimes. Adding "much more" damage to that riposte would be just plain redonkulous - when I say more than half my hp, I mean a really huge chunk :z   Maybe it's cause I had the golem set on, which has pretty much no lightning def.

Again, Lightning damage isn't counted for criticals, nor is any kind of elemental damage. If you have a hard time believing it, try it out for yourself. Craft two Zweihanders differently, one to Lightning +4 and another to +14 and see what is the one doing a lot more damage. 

Iron Flesh has no elemental resistances, so you'll be receiving the normal elemental damage as you would receive without using it. That's why for PVP Iron Flesh is totally worthless, even without factoring the extreme slowdown you suffer. Strong Magic Shield is a plethora of times better as that critical attack wouldn't have caused any damage.