Wall Street Protests

[Kasz216]

Raze said:

Kasz216 said:

 

See that's where we disagree.

I think people are pissed because they are out of work/in debt/broke.

If like, Rick Perry becomes President and he forces through a flat tax, I think the occupy wallstreet movement would only start again.  Or get bigger if it miraculiously stays around that long.

While if he became President, all the dumb corporate loopholes and stuff stuck around, but we dropped to about 6% unemployment, and regular person's debt is fixed...  Then nearly everyone would declare victory go home and be happy with the current system.

Afterall, storys about corporations paying no taxes have been around for decades, people just didn't care though.  Truth is, the people don't care now either, shit is just going bad for them and they want someone to  blame.

Well outside of the real small core that helped kick things off anyway, but if you took all that core you could probably fit the entire group into one small sized colleges ranks with plenty of fillover.

It's worth noting that on it's highest day so far those camping out represented I believe are at most 0.02% of the population of the US.

If you want to combine that with the Tea Party... protestors that are 0.08% of the population...

you've got .1% of the population in your revolt numbers... since I'd imagine you would at least have to be willing to go to a protest to be willing to overthrow the government.

See, I don't see it that way. I think people are more pissed that billions are wasted wrecklessly and people aren't provided with some core promises from Obama - like healthcare. I myself am somewhat unemployed, but I'm not angry about it. I'm only irritated when I know I have a solid resume but don't even get a call for an interview. But I branched out and began a new trail. The whole concept of opening a new door when one closes.

I AM pissed about the concept thatthe gov't uses my money to bail out banks, car makers, and sends money to foreign nations, all while fleecing the people via increased cost of living, especially in the food sector. For the billions sent overseas, they could create a national stipend to curb the rising cost of food. In the past year I watched the same $25 worth of grocieries cost $40. I am pissed that gas is $3.30/gallon and higher and then Exxon posts record profits, and THEN is listed as a corporation that paid 0% in taxes.

So no, I think you are overgeneralizing when you say that everyone is mad because they don't have jobs.

As for the joining a protest vs overthrow gov't, again its like our voting system - only so many feel that they can change anything with a protest, and others don't feel like protesting does any good, especially when its misdirected. The same issue applies with voting, many people dont bother to vote because they don't think it will change anything. Also,  a good contingent of supporters do have a job to go to, or live outside reasonable range of one of the major cities of the protest. There's a lot of varaibles here that you don't take into consideration. If the world was as black and white as you paint it, then I could agree, but there is no black, no white, only grey.

 

Survey seems to suggest we are both wrong.  I'd say it paints your plan in an even worse light however.

What binds a large majority of the protesters together—regardless of age, socioeconomic status or education—is a deep commitment to left-wing policies: opposition to free-market capitalism and support for radical redistribution of wealth, intense regulation of the private sector, and protectionist policies to keep American jobs from going overseas.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204479504576637082965745362.html

 

Guy worked for Clinton so it's pretty trustworthy i'd think.