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badgenome said:

That there is a higher education bubble (created, as always, by the feddle gubmit) would seem to be beyond the purposes of this conversation, however. Just because your government is stupid and your peers are stupid doesn't mean that you also have to be stupid. I mean, shit. Is this really the argument you want to make? Having so many options and opportunities in life that you choose to do the wrong things does not make you in any meaningful sense a victim, and if some cunt with a sociology degree finds out after the fact that his degree is basically worthless, I'll be fucked if I'm going to feel sorry for him. Instead of going to college just because "it's time to go" or because you want to extend your adolescence, go because you want to learn something useful. Otherwise, don't.

It is important to also understand that, it is folly to believe that mass cultural stupidity, in a bad set of values that preaches, "The only way to get ahead is a college education", isn't going to impact you in some way, if that is the norm.  To not believe this is so is to live some sort of objectivist reality that believes you can form a large enough gated wall and keep yourself safe.

In a relative free society, with elected officials by people, and the ability to organize and address grievances, it is imperative that one not just say "it is the government's fault", because the government IS the byproduct of the collective wishes of the masses, and an attempt to manage their desires.  And if they are collectively stupid, expect to suffer as a result, even if you weren't part of it.  I know, you long for a society where it is TOTALLY merit driven, where bad mistakes a punishes to such a degree it theoretically deters.   But, you don't live in such a world now, nor would the mass of people tolerate such a system without any form of a safety net.

As for enforcing this stupidity, the norm for people is to go get jobs somewhere, and be middle and upper class.  Well, guess what happens without the degree?  Well, the average person will be denied an ability to interview without the debt bomb degree, ANY debt bomb degree.  You have laziness embedded in the system by companies, and social conventions built on this.  All the government stupidity you rail against now is merely reenforcing this societial stupidity.  Well, the word is getting out slowly here.  And eventually the system will collapse.