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Dr.Grass said:
ChristianTheAtheist said:
Dr.Grass said:
spurgeonryan said:
I had a funny reason that I wanted to add, but it would make Jay mad about recent things. By the way I have a thread about that if you want to share with all of us!

Humans do have free will. I just ate a carmel apple , did not have to, in fact something inside me (arteries) told me not to, but because of my free will I decided to eat it. Just like I decided to post here instead of the latest JoelCool7 thread, or one of my own.


That's not an argument at all. Just because things happened in a certain way and you feel you were the cause does not mean you are the cause - that's the whole point of this debate.


So...... your arteries told you no to eat a caramel?

Your decision to eat the caramel (and decision making in general) was the result of a phisiological process inside your brain which is ruled the laws of physics.


Firstly, you quoted the wrong person.

Secondly, the laws of physics are not deterministic at the fundamental level. We know 'what to expect' out of a certain configuration, but the possibility exists that an event might occur that defies common sense.

The cause of this indeterminism is thought to be part of nature, but ultimately it is unknown.

So you really don't have a point there either.

I was just lazy to find his original comment, i think I could just have deleted your part.