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kowenicki said:
Blood_Tears said:
Lyrikalstylez said:
You guys know sony probably owns less than like 10% of blu-ray revenue right?

The BDA group consists of 17 companies :

CyberLink Corporation
Dell Inc.
Hewlett-Packard Company
Hitachi Ltd.
Koninklijke Philips Electronics N.V.
LG Electronics Inc.
Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., Ltd. (Panasonic)
Mitsubishi Electric Corporation
Pioneer Corporation
Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd.
Sanyo Electric Co., Ltd.
Sharp Corporation
Sonic Solutions
Sony Corporation
TDK Corporation
Victor Company of Japan (JVC, minority owned by Matsushita), Ltd.
Warner Home Video Inc.

Sony definately owns more then 10%, likely high 20's in that aspect, just under 30% according to this article.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-9874317-1.html?tag=cnetfd.mt

The top 4 ip holders of Blu-ray are Sony, Panasonic, Pioneer, and Warner






yeah more than 10% of the ROYALTY REVENUE.. a lot less than anywhere near 10% of blu ray revenue.

Royalties have dropped dramatically and for discs are bugger all now...

Blu-ray royalty rates are expected to plunge with the formation of a global independent Blu-ray licensing company by industry heavyweights Sony, Panasonic and Philips.

A new license system will be established by mid-2009 as a "one-stop shop" for device makers, representing the interests of all Blu-ray patent holders. Licensing will be managed by an as yet unnamed new company, headed by Gerald Rosenthal - former head of intellectual property at IBM. Offices will be spread across the United States, Asia, Europe and Latin America.


As a result of the new licensing systems, royalty rates will drop by 40 percent for individual Blu-ray Disc, DVD and CD format licenses.


The fees for the new licenses will be $9.50 for a Blu-ray player and $14 for a Blu-ray recorder. Making Blu-ray Disc will cost 11 cents for read-only, 12 cents for recordable discs and 15 cents for rewritable discs.



http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/15591-B...vestories_week

 

So.... if they get 20% of the royalty, they are looking at 2 cents for every game disc and $1.80 for a player inside a gaming machine.

so, if the nextbox sells as much as the 360, they would pay sony about 11 mil in royalties for discs, and about 100 mil for the hardware.  I don't know, I think Microsoft would see that 111 mill figure and try and figure something else out.