Stats/Scaling are horribly broken in Dark Souls =/

[lestatdark]

Parasitic said:

lestatdark said:
Also, I forgot to add this in reply to the OP:

If you think Lightning weapons are the highest damage output in the game, you're dead wrong. Even without considering the fact that Lightning damage can be mitigated a lot (a 720 Lightning Zweihander +5 only does 220 damage to my character, with the two-handed R2 attack), nothing beats the shear damage that a Great Club +15 with 60 STR (337 base + 240 scale) + Crystal Magic weapon does = 820 attack.

Pure physical, not that split damage crap that Lightning weapons have. I've hitten people with it at SL 150 for 700 damage a piece. Backstabs of 1200.

Go on, try to tell me Lightning weapons are the most OP out there, I dare you

One of the points I was getting at is how much spec is required to outdo lightning. It takes alot.  Honestly I don't wanna see lightning weapons turn into what dragons weps were like in Demons Souls - useless after a short period of time. If anything, I'd rather see the really hard-hitting weapons have their requirements upped so there isn't mages running around with 600-700 damage weapons.

It might be easy to say lightning is fine when you're SL150 but tbh, I haven't even got upto that point yet and not sure if I plan to since SL 115-125 was the unofficial pvp range in Demons Souls.

 

As for TWoP/Fog Ring peeps, can't say that I've had much success at beating them. I've tried high armor sets but really, TWoP just seems way too damn powerful in combination with other things. If it doesn't take that much of a hit in the next patch, I could definitely picture myself using it. No flask-usage for invaders seemed really awesome at first but it hardly matters, they just use humanity. My first pvp encounters while trying to get through the game were fine, but eventually people just started playing downright dirty - even when I do manage to get a TWoP guy really low, they just run their asses off with me unable to chase. They run far off into npc's and use humanity to heal at full then come back and repeat. If they see whatever spell spam they're doing isn't working out, they just wail away with lightning weps while I'm unable to roll because of TWoP.

It'd be really hard to convince me that TWoP isn't a broken skill. I'm sitting at SL109 right now and it's likely that if it doesn't take that much of a hit from the next patch, I'll probably be (ab)using it.

@ A203D,

Unfortunately, framerate isn't really something that can be fixed. It's here to stay. I will say though that I wouldn't hate blight town anywhere as much as I do now if it didn't slow the game down to a snail's pace.

Meh, had a TWOP with Fog spamming Chaos Great Fireball and another one spamming Crystal Ring Shield. Took both of them down quite easily, especially since most of them don't know how well a Havel's Shield blocks. I just tank the whole spam and then still have enough health to take them on, given the insane amount of Poise that Havel has, I can cure at any time without interrumptions.

Again, the only real trouble for me is the Sorceror spammers, and even then most of the times I can just tank until they run out of spells. If you see any PVP player using humanity to heal, it's really easy to counter unless you're in the TWOP field. At that time I just let them heal, they'll run out of humanity eventually. 

Tankers are some of the best PVP classes out there, there's little that can outmatch them. If anything fails in my strategy, I usually go for my Avelyn +14 with Crystal Magic Weapon which is always a move that catch people of guard (that or using Gravelord GreatSword which is an amazing PVP spell). 

TWOP is a IMBA spell, I trully believe it should be nerfed to a trigger only effect, not Aura AOE, just like a Force spell. Or downgrade the cast number to 1, max 2. Fog users are no concern since you can easily see them due to their blue-ish/red-ish shade, it's a dead give away, and with horizontal wide swings from my Axe, they never get a chance for backstabs. 

I agree with you completely when you say that Lightning needs to be nerfed (as I had agreed with you on the official thread), but given a certain range (and trust me, the arranged SL for PVP is 140 - 150, just go to preparetodie.com or gamefaqs and you'll see tons of people referring to those levels, heck, I got 6 souvenir of reprisal and 15 dragon stones in less than hour and a half at SL 145 on Kiln), Lightning starts to become a non-issue, either because of high Lightning resistances or because you have much stronger weapons. 

I'm still looking for combos to increase my weapons power (without resorting to the utterly lame Magic Weapon glitch). Best I've had so far is 810, but I think I can get a better one.