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sethnintendo said:
padib said:

Blaming manufacturing going to China on Obama is the dumbest thing I heard.


He was blaming it on regulations and unions not really putting the entire blame on Obama.  Anyways, I work at Flextronics in Austin which you can't even think about forming unions or you would be fired.  I suppose he likes the ability to work the Chinese to death and not worry about pollution.  Sounds like good manufacturing to me.


Don’t make the mistake of assuming that strengthening unions is the same as supporting workers. A large portion of rules that benefit unions make their members worse off and weaken companies, and are passed primarily because unions represent the largest campaign contributors and largest lobbying group in Washington. The entire point of eliminating a worker’s right to a secret ballot on a vote to unionize (for example) is to allow union thugs to intimidate and bully workers to vote the way they want them to, and only someone who is corrupt or a fool could support such a measure.

It has been studied many times and it has been consistently found that union members have lower job satisfaction than non-union members. While there are many (possible) reasons for this my personal belief is that it is not in a union's interests to have satisfied members. After all, if your working conditions are good, you've got lots of nice perks, your relationship with your boss is decent, and your pay and benefits are decent wouldn't you start to question why you're paying this union so much money? On the other hand, if the union focuses only on increasing salary (translating into higher union dues) and benefits, while eliminating all other perks and creates an adversarial work environment you're going to support your union leadership to fight those "bastards" in management.