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Kasz216 said:
 

1 - See, I see a whole lot of nothing happening in the future, because we have the same economy we had when everything was great... it's just, everything was great... and economics wise we're still a hell of a lot better then most countries, including Europeon ones.  Greece is going to get by with out a reveloution.   The US Should be just fine.

2 - Fair enough, i'd argue though that the occupy wallstreet movement could learn a lot from the tea-party policy wise if "corruptability by lobbyists" is the main worry.

3- We can't fight two different wars for two different reasons?  We did go to War in Afghanistan to get Bin Laden and take out the Taliban who was supporting him.  Bush sucked at it, but Afghanistan has really been nothing but an albatross and always will be.  Afghanistan I believe don't have any oil reserves in large numbers,  I've seen people argue oil pipeline, but the Caspian Sea makes way more sense then an oil pipeline through Afganistan.

4- Your equating armed robbery where someone takes something from someone else, to someone accepting a gift from someone else they aren't supposed to? 

5 - If that's the case I don't think you'd get rid of corruption.  The average person can't recognize special interest stuff in bills, and politicians would just claim their opponents bills are nothing but that.  People won't want a flat tax, even in corporations, hence how these corruption based subsiies happen in the first place.   Gotta support green energy/health industry/hardworker (factory) farmers, etc.

1 - Not quite what I meant. Call it premonition, 6th sense, or just me being stupid and being crazy. I do understand your point, but it sounds like you believe that people will remain complacent. Threaten a man's survival, they're not going to be complacent. Which is why the gov't has had failsafes like unemployment and welfare in place. The key difference between the poor being placated with welfare and the once-middle class, is that people who have a resumé with 10 to 20 years experience, a college degree, etc are not going to openly accept the fact that they require welfare to survive.  What are the options? Continue to extend unemployment benefits beyond the current 99 weeks? (there's a lot of this number showing up lately, no? ;) )

4 - Not particularly, but given the amount of fallout from such actions, don't you think a 40 month term (which will likely be reduced for good behavior) is a bit on the light side?

5. In a case of a barebones gov't there wouldn't be "opponent bills". As for the proposed bills, it'd have to be written in layman terms. I've always found legalese arcane and outdated myself, the laws would have to talk in a manner everyone would get, with a complete description of their ramifications. As for flat tax, it would make filing a lot easier. there's no question about write-offs, etc. Tax wouldn't be such a mystery. No one could complain about "so and so paid less taxes than me" etc. In other words, it could probably quell most of the complaints people have in this country.



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