Do you believe equality and equal treatment under a law to be undesirable?

[Joelcool7]

sapphi_snake said:

Joelcool7 said:

This is the very danger of atheism and the belief that humans are just another animal. Fact of the matter is if humans behave like animals the human race will collapse. Their has to be a moral basis in society that which was provided by the Abrahamic faiths largely Christianity. The idea of looking out for yourself and not valuing those around you will lead to Doomsday.

Considering that the people who support conservative christian organizations are the ones who have the image of 'greedy' and that when christianity was in power (Middle Ages) a strong anti-equality class system was in place, I think you're terribly out of line. It's precisely the authoritarian systems who preach 'morality' (e.g. the Catholic Church in the Middle Ages, Communism) who are the least moral of them all.

You use the middle ages however the church at the time preached very little actual morality. The church was perverse and used the Bible for political means and to control and mobilize the people. At the time the average citizen couldn't actually read the Bible and the church used that. Note I am not Catholic, fact is that the moral basis we modern day countries are founded on is based in the Bible.

The penal code the UN's humanitarian laws. In fact remove religion all together and where is the basis for any laws? What makes one thing right and another wrong? If all humans are animals why should we care about one another? If we don't care about one another what would happen to modern society?

Also what makes what the Catholic Church did during the Middle Ages any worse then what any other empire did? The Persians the moors etc....etc... Christianity was still growing and as I said the people couldn't even read the Bible. Fact is you cannot judge Christianity entirely based on one time period and one group of people (Catholics).

If we want to follow that logic what about Atheist China or the brutality carried out in the name of exterminating religion in the Soveit Union?

You can't judge an entire belief system on the acts of a few. Authoritarian Governments around the world use any method they can to control their people. If it means bastardizing a religion they do if it means convincing the population God doesn't exist then they do.

But fact is that modern society is built upon the principles laid out in the Bible.