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RolStoppable said:
oniyide said:

First off you have no evidence that i hate 2d platformers, just bought sideways NY and i love it. How are you so sure that IOS was the lead platform?? Because they added one extra level?? Link Please. I admit that they messed up on Sonic 4. 2 hours of gameplay I was talking strictly about the 2D Sonic games. Ive played them all and thats about how long they take me to beat. Either Im really good at them or some people just really suck.  You say that 2d platformers havent evolved, you think NSMBWii and DKCR are evolutions?? I would disagree adding multiplayer (not even online) is not evolving that was done years ago in the SNES/GEN the only game that i have seen that has really pushed it in a direction never seen before is LBP, but i know how your ignorant prejudice about anything having to do with SOny so i cant wait to see what negative spin you put on that.  I never implied that NSMBWii or DKCR were not good games, stop looking for things that arent there, do you think those games would have sold anywhere near as good as they did if they were not attached to those franchises? Please.  I picked Rayman because thats the only damn 2d platformer coming out on retail.  Oh there is Kirby and im sure he will do alright but that is another Ninty staple which im not expecting to flop anyway.  

 

I don't need evidence for claims that I never made. However, what's well established on these forums by now is that you are against 2D platformers seeing retail releases.

The evidence for Sonic 4 may not be conclusive, but very plausible. You can read the whole story here. Don't worry, it may be located on Malstrom's blog, but it isn't Malstrom's theory.

I already told you that your point of two hours long Sonic games is moot, because modern 2D platformers have offered significantly more playtime than their predecessors that were released in the early '90s.

Regarding evolution of the genre, you conveniently ignored DKCR altogether. Also, even if you disregard NSMB WIi's multiplayer, the game still takes longer to beat and complete than Super Mario Bros. 3 and Super Mario World. I don't even need to say anything about LBP, because it is besides the point. Instead I advise you to look up what the word "evolution" means.

As for implying that NSMB Wii and DKCR are bad games, you tried to disqualify them by saying that it wouldn't matter if they sucked, because they would sell regardless. But do you think these games would have sold as well as they did if they weren't as good as they are?

With Kirby you are trying to do a similar thing. Apparently the game doesn't really count, because it is made by Nintendo. Since we both, as well as everybody else who is familiar with your posts, know that you are against 2D platformers being released at retail, it's an obvious attempt to move the goalposts in order to suit your agenda.

 

i have noticed  something about you. Why do you get so defensive about nintendo?