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Lord N said:
mrstickball said:
fkusumot - We're discussing real, relevant life here, and not a random gamertag I use on XBL based off of my paintball career.

Koffieboon - what about a 5 week old infant? If it was left on it's own, it'd die without nutrition - just like an unborn child. Even then, we've seen through many many accounts that infants born 23 weeks and such have survived due to great medical advances.

At what point do we consider a fetus something worth caring about? When it has a 100% chance of living? 90%? 5%? When the mother deems so? When the baby can talk?
A 5-week-old infant is a sentient being. A fetus is not. It is undeveloped tissue that is, in fact, a part of its mother's body. Like I said before, the only place we can draw the line is at birth, when it becomes a sentient being and its body can carry on its life functions without the mother's body. Another thing to consider: a woman takes a vacation to Vegas, gets drunk, has a one-night stand with some random guy she met in a bar, then comes back home and finds out a few weeks later she's pregnant. She obviously doesn't know who the father is and will most likely never find out. She lives alone and has no one to turn to for financial assistance, so obviously she can't afford to carry the pregnancy to term because she'd have to miss time from work, and her job doesn't offer paid maternity leave. Yeah, she should have exercised more caution before she got naked with some dude, but accidents happen, and there needs to be a legal way to fix them. 
People who are pro-life too often try to take a moral high ground and argue based on their emotions rather than logic and rationality.

 

That was anolther lame excuse pro-chicers make. Ok so she gets home from vegas pregnant, no clue who the father is, money problems, then put the kid up for adoption it is not the baby's fault the mom made a dumb @$$ mistake. If someone has money problems it is cheaper to put the child up for adoption then abortion so that makes no sense.