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Seece said:
thismeintiel said:

Seece, you really must stop with this Kinect is a console and sells like a console. If that were true, then its doing absolutely HORRIBLE. The Wii, which most people see as performing rather poorly, did more than double Kinect's WW numbers in America alone last week. No, it's just seen as an add-on and its selling like one, which is why its pulling numbers slightly below Wii Fit, and probably slightly above Move.

This holiday isn't going to change that. Sure, its going to see a really nice boost in Americas and the UK (the other two are going to too, though probably not as large), but not numbers like what happened last year when its was crazy hyped and a brand new product. What game for it do you think is going to push that much Kinect HW? The only one that I see that would have been a significant booster was Stat Wars Kinect, and that was delayed til next year.

I'm going by the last shipment figures.

The last Q we got was 2.4M which was more than the PS3 and the Wii.

360 and PS3 in its early life did 0.7M in some Q's.

Kinect isn't a console, it's viewed as by casuals and sells like one, and will this xmas, whether you like it or not. Industry folk agree and everyone else does expect Sony fans, funnily enough.

And Kinect is an add-on that was sold to an already established userbase in addition to casuals who dropped money for the 360+Kinect.  You can't compare that to 2 new systems (360 and PS3) that cost $299 and $499 respectively.  Plus, the last Q we got was Jan-March of this year, still hot on the heels of the Kinect hype and holiday success.  However, the previous Q (April-June) MS remained silent about Kinect sales, most likely because it was below expectations and not worth bragging about.  And as Carl pointed out, Kinect is going to have some competition as the "it" product, the 3DS.  And with 2 new Mario games and its low price, the 3DS is going to be tough to beat.

And this isn't a Sony vs MS thing, or a Nintendo vs MS thing, so let's not label the coversation from the opposing side as that.  Especially when even some MS fans have stated their doubts about them being able to pull it off.