sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:
sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:
I would totally be Ok with the Native Americans forming an army and driving out Americans from thier homes.
I'd want the US government to fight back because i'd want to keep my shit....
but I'd understand why they were doing it.
Well assuming their main form of driving people out was indiscriminate attacks on indiviudals like the Palestinians....
and if the Native Americans were winning and drove us into a situation like Palestine... what I would want is the US government to give up no matter how much land it would take and get rid of our extremist terrorists so they would have no excuse to attack us again. So we could build up our economy and live prosperous lives.
Plus the ability to build up a real army that if people were violent enough to come to it... could take back the rest of the land we thought was ours.
And if I died and was reincarnated as a Native American after all that.... I'd understand why the US would be fighting to take back the land too.
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Wouldn't it make more sense if the Jews were the Americans (i.e. the invaders) and the Palestinians the Native Americans (i.e. the natives)? I'm not talking about the situation of who's winning and who's not.
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Well
A) In the above example the Jews are the Americans, and the Palestinians are the Native Americans. Hence my being ok with it, just as long as the Native Americans weren't fighting like the Palestinians are. Set up this way because who is winning.
B) No, because the Jews weren't the Invaders, for all intensive purposes the British were. More like when the British shipped it's priosners to Australia.
C) No, because the Jews were the original inhabitants who were driven out.
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I must've misunderstood your post.
And regardign C, hey, they left, it's no longer theirs anymore. The Jews who currently live in Israel came from Europe a couple of decades ago. Palestinians have been living there for centuries. They're more natives to the land than the Jews are. Sucks for the Jews that they're trying to perform ethnic cleansing in the 21st century.
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So in otherwords... if the US wanted to kick out all of the illegal aliens in the United States, and for that matter all the hispanic people who have migrated their in the last couple decades.... you're all for that then?
Also, no... only 23% of Jews who live in israel came from Europe. 70% were born in Israel.
The percentage of Palestinians who were born within Jewish lands... much less.
Aside from which, if your going to argue historical hertiage as right... to claim that historical heritage has a "generic starting point" is just.... silly.
I mean, what makes a newer historical claim more valid then an older one. (Though note actually, the Jews now have both the Newest and Oldest claims now.)
