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sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:
Mr Khan said:
Now that i'm actually in college, i say let the affirmative action roll

I think you just answered Mr stickballs question.

Relativly few people are kept out of the best school they could theoretically get into due to quotas... and even then by the time they do it's too late.

While everyone loves them some baked goods.

Wait, I thought you said in a previous thread that you were against such practices...

Stickballs question was "Why do people get upset over such practives when it comes to buying something, and not upset when it comes to college admissions."

My point was that the amount of people going to college is small, and the population of people being kept out because of their race is even smaller, and honestly, the percentage that know that is even smaller.

 

So people aren't outraged because it doesn't hurt them of effect them.  While everyone does like sweets, so word of different pricing in that makes people mad. 


For example, if you had to pay .50 cents more a gallon for gas because your white....a  LOT of people were mad.   If you had to pay .50 cents more for an Anime boxset direct from japan... the country at large wouldn't give a damn.

 

Aside from which... my actual position on the matter is a lot more complicated then a simple "for or against" honestly.

When it comes to different thinking styles being added in, i'm definitly for it....

past that it gets tricky on a Macro/Micro level.

On a Macro level you see the divide between the races growing and you want to do something to directly adress that...

However on the Micro level you realize races aren't two different "teams" and that for every Warren Buffet, there are hundreds of poor white people who are worse off then tons of minorities who would receive help from an attempt to close the wealth gap.

Espiecally when you realize from a Macro prospective, the quickest way to close the racial wealth gap would be to target the rich and middleclass of the minority group, and not the poor... to make more minority millionaires and billonaires, rather then try and build up the poor.

 

This is largely why in general  a "bottom up" approach is prefered by even most Democrats to just help all of the poor, and then watch the racial gap shrink as a result.

 

Of course, the problem is that they use the oldschool throwing money at the problem style government that never works... because the poor don't need more or more schooling persay, they need more "wealth" connections.

The problem with most minorities and poor white people is they are out by themselves.

There is a big differnece between someone making $20,000 a year who has a diverse family with some successful people in it, and someone making $20,000 a year whose entire family is struggling just like them.


No matter what advantages you give people, a great number of them are going to slip downwards again due to a lack of a wealth base.  (which again oddly points to the solution being not an equal distribution, but making a few people very successful and hope they pass it along to friends and relatives.)