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Kasz216 on 05 October 2011
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sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:

And Martin Luther King's main pretext for making the arguement for equality was religion.

Aside from that... your basically calling Gahndi's entire nonviolent peace movement a lie in that case sicne that was the basis of his entire movement.  His driving force you could say.

Though i'm not surprised as you and Gahndi are pretty diametrically apposed philosphy wise.

I just find it funny you'd feel the audacity to just outright say "Gahndi was wrong".  On the one hand someone usually considered one of the top 25 or so greatest people ever who had spent a long time of his life studying all religions.  Versus a bitter romanian teenage atheist who hasn't been expirenced to much more then one religion and who could be seen as a "tad" bit biased considering their own personal situation.

No actual attempt at a quote from another philosopher or antyhing.  Just "Gahndi's wrong!"

'Ghandi is wrong' is all I really have time to say right now.

Out of curiosity, who would you say I'm like 'philosphy-wise'? I'm quite curious, since it will say a lot about the image you have of myself (and considering the way you usually refer to me, I'm expecting someone nasty).

 It's pretty simple really, and not anything I think you'd disagree with... it's worth noting that Gahdni's entire movement was based on Satya... what is Satya?  It's Truth, according to Ghandi, what is Truth?

Truth = God.

Gahndi's entire movement was based on his religious faith.

 

Aside from that... lets compare with Gahndi.

Gahndi: Relgions are inherently good.   You: Religions are inherently bad.

Gahndi: "Supplication, worship, prayer are no superstition; they are acts more real than the acts of eating, drinking, sitting or walking. It is no exaggeration to say that they alone are real, all else is unreal."    You: I mean do I even need something here?

Gahdni: People are in inherently good.   You: People are inherently self interested and therefore "bad".

Gahndi: "Nothing is impossible for pure love"   You: Obviously don't believe that.

Gahdni: believed in the smallest amount of government possible.  You: For huge overarching governments

Gahndi: Anti gun control.  "Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest"  You: As far as i can tell would like to see all guns banned

Gahndi: deal with discrimination and other issues with nonviolence.  You: have a wide stretch of laws to rigidly prevent any kind of bigotry.  (Except religious bigotry.)

Gahndi: I had learnt at the outset not to carry on public work with borrowed money. One could rely on people's promises in most matters, except in respect of money.  You: Seem to be a pretty clear Keynsian.

Ghandi: To attain to perfect purity one has to become absolutely passion-free in thought, speech and action; to rise above the opposing currents of love and hatred, attachment and repulsion.  You: believe in a passioned view of things rather then looking at things purely logically.

All said though, your current bigotry towards religion is clearly due to your own situation where you are an atheist but afraid to mention it to your family.  It's a fairly common way for religious bigotry to be born out.  Though it makes no more sense then someone who hates black people because he was jumped by some black people.

When it comes to your own situation, Gahndi would say to tell your parents the truth and non-violently accept all the consequences that comes with it.