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Declan said:
@fkusumot

It's not a poor argument. If I am aware to the point that I have sensory perception, then I am aware of my own existence (even if I have yet to develop the intelligence or vocabulary to express the idea). If I can feel pain, for example, then I must be aware in order to feel it, and self-aware to realise that it is me who is feeling the pain.

No, you've done backwards logic there.

You are saying: we see foetuses feeling pain -> pain implies self-awareness -> foetuses are self-aware

All you can actually conclude from that is that the foetuses aren't feeling pain but rather we are seeing a simple chemical response, rather than that foetuses have self-awareness.



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