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Kasz216 said:
I wouldn't say those who aren't rich are lazy or don't work hard enough.  I would actually say that there is a certain group of people that can never be rich because they just don't posses the right tools to become rich because they either can't or didn't work smart enough.

There are many ways to become rich, but even if you had complete god like control over every single person i'd doubt you could create a situation in which everyone was at a state we'd consider "rich" currently. 

Though being rich really shouldn't be everyones goal.  Really it shouldn't be ANYONE's goal, since you don't need to be rich to live a good life.

Though most people would be better off if they accepted that they DID make a mistake rather then blame an outside force.

You can pretty much always point to a reason someone didn't succeed.  Afterall most people don't have a flawless view of economic reality.

Afterall, in your particular case, do you really believe if you were given a chance to go back in time and keep retrying to succeed that you would NEVER find a way to be rich no matter how many different choices you made? 

A problem now is, in the political rhetoric, it is the simplified cliches that the rich are greedy and evil, and the poor are lazy (read unemployed here).  

Take a look at this article, which commented on a blog that my story about discontinuation of unemployment benefits came up:

http://www.sequenceinc.com/fraudfiles/2010/03/this-is-why-welfare-sucks/

Eliot
3 March 2010 at 12:32 pm | 

The heart of your comment is that you’re outraged about money being wasted on your behalf, and I share that sentiment.

Do I know people who are sacks of crap that should have gotten a job 6 months ago instead of whining about how low their unemployment check is, of course I do!

There are always people who are going to abuse the system, that’s a poor reason to scrap the entire system.

 

Tracy Coenen
5 March 2010 at 12:32 pm | 

Ah yes. The threat of social unrest. Makes for good sound bytes, but that’s about it. Then again, maybe those of us working and paying the way for people who don’t want to work should start a little social unrest of our own.

You see, a guy like this is inherently a failure. Us cutting him a check every month for 3 years does not stop him from being a failure. Now he’s just a failure who has no incentive to pay his own way.

I say we let guys like Richard choose their own level of failure. He can have unemployment for a maximum of 6 months and then it stops. At which point he can take an available job like the one at Wendy’s he mentions, or he can go live with his mean elderly daddy and complain to WalletPop about it. I don’t care which he chooses, as long as I’m not the one paying his way.

(My comment: I DID try to apply to Wendy's and was told I didn't have sufficient quick service experience.  I also did apply to McDonald's during National Hiring Day.  No job.  See, the implication is that I was lazy here.  See, Tracy's comment.  People "choose" their level of failure).

Ken
16 June 2010 at 10:38 pm | 

Instead of jumping on those who use social services, how about we look at the system’s mechanisms that creates and preserves their positions.

This “self-reliant,” “self-made” attitude in America only marginalizes those people without the drive to excel. Not everyone connects with Type A energy. Many of us are watching the people of this country running around in madness with a total loss of heart. Busy, busy, busy.

(Edit: See here again, people without "drive to excel" end up not making it.  Like, shoot, I ended up with a bankrupcy because I tried to fund a start up.  But see, I don't have a enough drive to succeed.  All you need is to drive hard enough)

 

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