Protest footage in NY, SHOCKING!

[Kasz216]

richardhutnik said:

Kasz216 said:

As for doing what the Tea Party couldn't....

I'd note the "End the Fed" signs that you see all over the place there.

However the movement is far to fractured to do what the Tea Party couldn't.

The Tea Party was soley about conservative economics. Had "Blue Dog" style Democrats joined in it would of ended up that way.

This movement however has no real goal. Even the "Stopping government corruption" goal. Some are anarchists, some want republicans out, some who want the democrats out (afterall they are the hedgefund darlings more often that non) and some want to change everybody but want to keep the same kind of government.

Then there are plenty of other people there just for selfish reasons, like those who have too much debt and want a government bailout.

The second someone tries to corral the group and solidify the ideals of it, they'll lose 90% of their support.

You already see people trying to convince everyone they are the "Tea Party of the Left."

For all practical purposes, the Occupy movement is is Operation Empire State Rebellion, Part 2.  In short, it is what the guy at AmpedStatus site, followed up with a bit of Anonymous, wanted to do (first one pretty much failed).  Only way it is remotely "Tea Party of the Left" is that it has politically leaning to the left folks deciding to meet together and get upset, thus being a counter to the Tea Party folks.  If it ends up being a "Tea Party on the Left" movement, then it will fail to bring about any needed change.  If it morphs into what was seen in the mideast with large numbers together marching for change, there is a chance of happening.  But not if it is just merely the left.

It really wouldn't though.  In the middleast marching for change was against a dictatorship.

Here we have an actual democracy.  They aren't going to change the system because of a minority of protestors.

Actual change can only be accomplished by voting.

It'd be fun to see some change though.

What's amusing now is the  hot potato game of trying to make the other party vote down Obama's dumb stimulus bill first.

Cantor refused to let the whole thing come to the floor.

So Obama said "why can't i have a vote don't have the time".

So McConnel, knowing there aren't even enough Democrats to support  it said "Yeah he's right, lets vote on this now."

Only to have Harry Reid block it amusingly calling it a "poltical stunt."

Which is just... weird honestly.  I mean it was a political stunt, but it was still the presidents bill word for word.