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Kasz216 on 04 October 2011
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sad.man.loves.vgc said:
Kasz216 said:


1) Exorcism by a priest, you just hold someone down while reading from the bible and commanding the demon to leave in the name of god.  As for where the practice comes from I can't really say.  I'd guess this would answer part of your second question though, in that it predates the "Split" therefore most likely all abrhamic religions can drive out demons in the name of god.  In general the abrahamic religions are a lot "nicer" too each other, usually thinking there are some exceptions for each other. 

2) I explained how they "work".    It's a lot like the Placebo effect.  Convince people that by "taking the demon" out of them, that their pain will lessen/their "evil" actions will be less tempting/ Something else.

It often works... at least for the intermediate

3)  A relgious group can claim that demonic possessions only happen where the religion is, because the Devil is only intersted in corrupting the faithfull.  Verus some modern psychologists who have no explination for why DID really only happens with any large numbers in the United Staes.  (Though is increasingly diagnosed in europe.)

Truth is, Dissossiative Identity Disorder is likely CAUSED by therapists who unintentionally coach them to treat each emotion or set of feelings as a "different personality."

 

In Islam it's quite the opposite actually. The devils target the weak ones because they don't read Quran or mentions god's name enough. Devils are hurt by Quran (that's why it's read during exorcism) so they can't harm the faithful who is always in touch with his religion.

Most Muslims who go to the exorcists are not Shiokh, they are the ones who commit lots of sins and believe that devils possessed them easily because they "let their gaurd down", as long as your a Shaikh, you are safe. It seems that who believes he's in danger of being possessed is the ones that seeks exorcism eventually.

Lots of Muslims also believe that Humans can contact the devils. In order to do that you have to curse the god himself, burn the quran, shit on it (seriosly), grow nails, become dirty and all sorts Of Kufr. In Huaxiong's case, his aunt met "eccentric" people who she thought they did something to her. I believe by eccentric he means those same  dirty people who are in contact with the devils. That's why the devil targeted her despite being a devoted Muslim. He was ordered to. There is a good chance that what happened to his aunt started by an obsession about the people she met and their ability to harm her.

I am not convinced that exorcism is part of Islam in the first place. Quran and the thousands of hadeeths don't mention exorcism. We have Hadeeths that talks about armpits hair but zero about exorcism.

 

As for DID. Isn't DID 'not accepted" by many psychiatrists? and the ones that accept it describe it differently too. Some of them believe the whole thing is just about memory gaps. A guy moves the couch, he forgets completely that he moved it and he starts to think that there is someone invisible in his life and so on. So it's not always "2 separate" personalities. I am curious as to why you are referring to DID only. What about psychosis that accompanies LOTS of mental disoders? Each case should be studied separately .


1) I mean why demons only attack those "of the faith".  They pick of the weak ones yeah... but the weak of the believers, hence why it wouldn't manifest in outsiders as much.  (Or so they would guess.)

 

2)  I'm only talking about DID because it's a funny coicindence.  It's the psychiatrists version of Demon possession.