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padib said:
sapphi_snake said:
padib said:
sapphi_snake said:
padib said:

You're confusing psychosis with religious fanaticism. They play on each other, but the problem this lady had was psychosis that led her to murder her daughter. What those people you know personally suffer from is religious fanaticism, it can be good (enlightened) or it can be bad (ignorant). Fanaticism in and of itself, imho, is not a bad thing.

No, religious fanaticism is inherently bad, and causes nothing but evil.

Nope. Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi was a religious fanatic, he did a great deal of good (understatement). Martin Luther King was a religious fanatic, and so was mother Teresa. Jesus was a religious fanatic and we know what he did (if the gospels are true, which is a likely possibility unless you just want to doubt for the sake of doubting).

As I said, religious fanaticism is only bad when it is paired with ignorance. Irreligious fanaticism follows the same rule.

I don't think you know what religious fanaticism means. None of the people you mentioned there were religious fanatics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_fanaticism#Popular_Examples_of_Religious_Fanaticism

Religious fanaticism is the result of ignorance.

Religious fanaticism is fanaticism related to a person's, or a group's, devotion to a religion. However, religious fanaticism is a subjective evaluation defined by the culture context that is performing the evaluation. What constitutes fanaticism in another's behavior or belief is determined by the core assumptions of the one doing the evaluation. As such, there is currently no constant academic standard for what defines a fanatical religious position.

You are aware that that kinda invalidates your whole argument, no? You're basically saying that judging whether or not someone is a religious fanatic is something subjective, a relative thing determined by the one doing the evaluation. Therefore you cannot say that those individuals are religious fanatics, other than in your personal opinion, and you cannot expect others to agree with that opinion, since by your definition, religious fanaticism is 'in the eye of the beholder'.

Therefore, with you arguing such relativism, you've rendered any discussion regarding this issue as pointless as a debate regarding which colour is prettiest.



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