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sapphi_snake said:
Kasz216 said:
sapphi_snake said:
huaxiong90 said:

Tbh, I have yet to find anything that accurately describes what I saw, and what can be used as a means of understanding exorcisms.

My relative who was exorcised was not experiencing any health issues, and she was a devout Muslim until just the two weeks before the exorcism, after a meeting with some (eccentric) people. She wasn't acting weird or showing signs of illness, she just halted her religious activities altogether. There's too much that happened during the exorcism, but the weirdest part was this:

She apparently came to her senses and got a grip after a while of struggling so as not to hear the quranic verses (no pats were used yet, and during this time she even threw punches until her arms were firmly pinned by her husband). Anyways, she was describing what she felt throughout the whole ordeal (she was unable to speak, and felt as if someone had her throat clenched, amongst many other disturbing things). So the sheikh then gives her the Quran and asks her to recite the verse she spoke of while being exorcised. Then, just like that, her facial expression changes into something I have never seen before, and she refuses to even touch the Koran. And the exorcism went on.

I have seen silly stuff on TV and the sort, but never...and I mean NEVER...have I witnessed something so mind boggling in my whole life. And when it all ended, the next day she was back into her religious duties, and eventually made a full recovery to devoutness.

I don't understand what exactly made you people think she was 'possesed'. Halting religious activities? Just seems like you guys were trying to force your religion on her. In Europe you'd be jailed for that 'exorcism'.

No you wouldn't.

Literally you wouldn't.

Holding the person down actually makes sense by the way, because for unkown reasons, people who go through exorcisims tend to spasm like crazy.  It's literally exactly what they would do to you in the hospital if they expected you might go through violent spams.

Due to that, the only thing you could get in trouble for, would be ruled a needed safeguard in a form of homeopathic medicine.

As for why people go through violent spasms when exoricised... there is honestly no actual decent medical explination for it.  You can come up with a hodgepodge of different reasons why it might happen in diffrent exorcisms but there isn't really a good unifying theory.

Wait, so tying someone against their will and torturing them isn't something that will get you jailed? I did not know that.


Well

A) Nothing described there qualifies as torture.

B) The vast majority of exorcisms happen at a persons request.

C) Exoricims happen a lot more in europe then you'd think... including western europe.  The only times they ever get coverage is when someone dies.  Just like basically every homeopathic or medical procedure for that matter.