starcraft said:
Kasz216 said:
starcraft said:
Every fetus that is aborted would have developed into a human being. How is deliberately and knowingly intervening in that process NOT murder? I believe that better support systems need to be put in place for pregnant women (especially teens) and for each nation's foster and adoption systems.
However legalized abortion is the most inhuman thing developed nations do. The ONLY acceptions should be people under the age of consent and endangered expectant mothers.
And to all of those people that say that illegal abortions would kill the same number of fetus-form humans anyway, a quick statistic for you: My nation has around twenty million people in it, and last year we had over ninety thousand abortions. Do you truly believe that ninety thousand women, even those that were desperate, would have been driven to the sheer stupidity that is coat-hanger abortions if abortion was illegal? |
No they would of went to doctors who would of performed them illegally. The doctors know how... and many would still continue to give abortions. Just off the record. I'd say most would. It's one of those things that just wouldn't stand being made illegal. It'd be like the prohibition era, except no awesome music. Also, how can you justify abortions when the mothers life is in danger? And people under the age of consent?
How is killing someone else for those reasons any more right then killing people for other reasons? If you legally define a fetus as a person, you can't at all have abortions. For ANY reason. Including situations where there is literally no chance of either patient surviving. It would go against the Hippocratic Oath. No doctor would perform a "legal" abortion. Also, anyone who voted for such a law would be a hypocrit of the highest order. Giving fetus' conditional humanity is worse then none at all. It's something I can't understand in people who see fetus' as kids. It's the real inhumanity in this debate. Well they wouldn't be hypocrits if they believed in speeding up peoples deaths to save people on trasnplant lists and the like. But like i said. Inhuman.
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All fetus's are humans as that is the only life-form that it is possible for them to become. Obviously if the mother wishes to struggle on with the pregnancy to try and save her child she should be allowed to. People in positions of authority regularly choose to prioritise one person's life over another (women and children first ring a bell?). In this case it is simply prioritising the mother over the child. As for people under the age of consent? The reason I said age of consent rather than a specific age is because the age of consent is the age at which society deems people to be old and mature enough to be responsible with sex. It logically follows that we cannot expect them to deal with the consequences of sex if they are underage. Though I admit that I am shaky on this point and open to pursuasion. I do think that perhaps this acception should be erradicated. |
"Women and Children first" doesn't mean "Shoot the men."
There is a very big difference between the two. In this case you are acting on it and killing someone.
It's no different then saying "This old man has 1 year to live max with his incurable dehibilitating illness... and a healthy heart. This other guy could live 20 years with a good heart. Lets prioritize the healthy young guy over the old guy who really doesn't have much longer to live. Nurse.... Shotgun."
It is, under your definition. Legalized murder to save someone else.
