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Zkuq said:
To all the guys who complained this game promotes camping: No it doesn't, it promotes tactical gameplay. I've been doing pretty well in both the PC version and the PS3 version by moving, and actually thinking where I'm moving. I get low fps on PC and I'm a horrible at shooters on consoles so by no means do I have it that easy... But I'm definitely not a camper and I've been doing well enough (KDR has been above 1 in every round I think, and I've also managed to destroy quite a few objectives).

Anyway, to get slightly back on the camping issue, I'd say there's lots of stuff that requires skills other than just killing. Killing is only one thing that requires skill. If you want shooters that focus on killing, you should go play Quake or Unreal Tournament or something like that instead of trying teamplay-based shooters.

That is funny, because there are people online, that think that you need skill to nube tube. I just said skill, so IDK who said that we want shooting skill shooters.

It is funny, people that get bothered by campers, are not the ones that want kills, campers want kills.

I think you are not understanding the "problem", people that play BF, and devs themselves like to say that it is all about objective, thing is, there is no other game were you see so much Snipers just sitting back and doing nothing.

My first game on the Beta was unreal, we were playing offense and no one was pushing the objective, I went 8-18 (some of it was because I was still getting a feel for it), and destroyed all the objectives (I had to if I wanted to win), I was the best player, at least the one with more points.

I just don´t like this attitude that is running the interwebz, that MW/COD is a noob game, and BF is a hardcore/skill kind of game.

Unfortunately this debate is pointless, because one of the reasons why these games are Fed up is because of the community that plays them

And my point is not to bash this beta, my point is that I am disappointed on it, what is funny, is the BF devs that come in here denying the evidence, saying that there are a lot more people running strategically then campers, and saying that one month is a lot of time and that this is a beta so I must not express my opinion about the quality of what is being given to me.

I am out I don´t want people to think I am a hater because I ain´t, I just hope this game has the quality, I want a first person shooter this year, but BF3 needs to deliver.