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Mr Puggsly said:
Deadlikeme said:

1. No actually the point was to make money off shovelware like the wii did. But even the wii can play real games. No kinect doesn't, Move has far more do some research. 

2. So you assumed I knew what you meant when you said something completely different? Even if I was a mind reader I  couldn't read someone's mind over the net and even if I could you would've stopped thinking about it when I read your post. I don't see your point not the point about userbase, read much?. Neither device is over a year old, and MS spent hundreds of millions advertising kinect, if that didn't get them a bit of a headstart nothing would but that's all it is a headstart. Again you have no idea how much software move sells since there are dozens of move compatible games that can be play ed without move. In other words you are just guessing. I expect kinect to selling 1/3 of what it did last holiday at best, people just don't want it now that they know it doesn't work. 

3. No saying the masses choose kinect is riddiculas and again move is getting more support then kinect how is that being ignored? 

Hard to notice a boost when it has move compatible with it from launch and you have no basis for comparison. 

Nope just hundreds of millions of advertising and lying about it's capabilities is why it sold. 

Nope Kinect just got more sales from advertising 10 times more.

1. Whatever the goal was, it worked better than Sony's.

Anyhow, look at the upcoming Kinect games, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Kinect_games

Over 40 games that are either designed for Kinect or have Kinect features. Move has less than 20 coming. Most of the for the Kinect actually require the Kinect as well which helps move the hardware.

 

2. You just clarified my point, we were clearly on the same page.

I don't know how much software Move is selling, but its obviously not selling a significant amount. Leave it to that.

Advertising a lone doesn't give you record breaking sales. People were genuinely intrigued by Kinect and it blew away expectations.

 

3. Refer to the link so you can see Kinect has more support. I don't consider games that have added support for Move better support either. That's not the kind of support that sells hardware.

I assure you no amount of advertising could make Move as successful as Kinect. Move is too similar to something else that's cheaper and has better motion games.

1. Not if Kinect dies this year or next which it looks like it might. Also There are 60 games out for move right now http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/12/17/playstation-move-approaching-50-supported-games-more-to-come/ and only 40 out for kinect, just because Kinect has more annouced doesn't mean anything there's no telling how many more will pop up for move or how many of kinect will fail to launch. 

2. lol advertising is the only thing that makes record breaking sales and people were blown away by MSes lies and ads and disapointed when they actually got it and again you are just assuming Kinect is selling more software, Kinect software sales aren't exactly impressive so even if move software sales aren't jumping off the charts it could still outdo kinects. 

3. 60 move games to 40 Kinects games... Move has more support. Of course it sells hardware, if those games didn't have move support the move would sell alot less. You are just cherry picking which games to count, I'd also like to point out that all of those games aren't kinect only, they are just so dumbed down if you don't have kinect you'd never want to play them and if you do have kinect you are just trying to feel like you didn't waste your money. 

4. lol Kinect isn't all that successful after the launch, psmove could easily outsell it over a long period of time, and if move advertised as much as kinect it would of outsold it. I assure you of that.